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| Cor Zonneveld |
Posted on 21-10-2007 13:51
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 Member Location: Amstelveen, the Netherlands Posts: 840 Joined: 14.10.06 |
Last week I was in Melbourne, Australia, for work. Happily enough I could find some spare time to look around. Although I found it quite poor in insects, I saw some interesting things, like this hoverfly. Has anyone an idea which it might be? Size: medium, about typical Syrphus. Habitat: recently burned area with rather low Eucalyptus trees. I'll attach a habitat photograph. The fly was sitting on burned wood from the 'tree' in the forground. Cor Zonneveld attached the following image:  [140.75Kb] Thanks for your attention Cor Zonneveld |
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| Cor Zonneveld |
Posted on 21-10-2007 13:51
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Member Location: Amstelveen, the Netherlands Posts: 840 Joined: 14.10.06 |
second view
Cor Zonneveld attached the following image:  [142.64Kb] Thanks for your attention Cor Zonneveld |
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| Cor Zonneveld |
Posted on 21-10-2007 13:52
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Member Location: Amstelveen, the Netherlands Posts: 840 Joined: 14.10.06 |
and habitat
Cor Zonneveld attached the following image:  [138.04Kb] Thanks for your attention Cor Zonneveld |
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| Gerard Pennards |
Posted on 23-10-2007 22:02
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 Member Location: Amersfoort Posts: 1914 Joined: 07.06.04 |
Hello Cor, I'm quite sure it's a species of Mesembrius, but in Australia there are several candidates: bengalensis, hilaris and ruficauda. As I don't know what these look like, it's as far as I can go! Greetings, Greetings, Gerard Pennards |
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| Maddin |
Posted on 23-10-2007 22:43
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 Member Location: Sacramento CA USA Posts: 194 Joined: 30.06.05 |
That is a great fly! I think it is not a Mesembrius, I have the species identified in my collection, but I can not find it right now.. I will look again for it...
Martin Hauser |
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| Gerard Pennards |
Posted on 24-10-2007 10:01
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Member Location: Amersfoort Posts: 1914 Joined: 07.06.04 |
Hello Martin, Well, interesting. I recalled the name from a picture of a similar looking syrphid that I found a while ago (unfortunately I can't find it anymore  ) on the net which was presented as probable Mesembrius sp..My own idea was something like Tropidia sp. or something close, but I don't know whether a genus like Tropidia is present in Australia! Curious to hear what it is.... Greetings, Gerard Greetings, Gerard Pennards |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 24-10-2007 11:42
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
My first though was Blera, but I am hardly the man to talk with about Australian syrphidae 
Kahis |
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| Maddin |
Posted on 29-10-2007 03:02
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Member Location: Sacramento CA USA Posts: 194 Joined: 30.06.05 |
ok with the help of my Aussi-friend Shaun Winterton, I got the name straight (at least I think so): Orthoprosopa grisea (Walker, 1835) Walker described it as Helophilus, although it belongs closer to Tropida, just another name he messed up... I hope I did not mess this one up, but this is at least my last thought to the southern beauty (ok I know it is a male...) Cheers Martin
Martin Hauser |
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| Cor Zonneveld |
Posted on 29-10-2007 10:16
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Member Location: Amstelveen, the Netherlands Posts: 840 Joined: 14.10.06 |
Thanks very much for the effort! I'll submit it to the gallery under this name. Thanks for your attention Cor Zonneveld |
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| Andre |
Posted on 29-10-2007 14:00
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 Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
Maddin wrote: I hope I did not mess this one up, but this is at least my last thought to the southern beauty (ok I know it is a male...) Cheers Martin What's wrong with coming out of the closet?  |
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 29-10-2007 14:06
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 Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1802 Joined: 14.01.06 |
I am very pleased to see an ID for this one - I am sending the link to my family in Australia so they can keep an eye out for it. I agree, it is a beauty and I'm glad you are submitting it to the gallery.
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| Maddin |
Posted on 30-10-2007 18:23
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Member Location: Sacramento CA USA Posts: 194 Joined: 30.06.05 |
Andre wrote: Maddin wrote: I hope I did not mess this one up, but this is at least my last thought to the southern beauty (ok I know it is a male...) Cheers Martin What's wrong with coming out of the closet? Nothing wrong with that! I just did not want anybody to think I would not be able to determine the gender of that fly  ... For the other stuff people might think about me... not that important 
Martin Hauser |
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