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 Syrphidae, Hammerschmidtia ferruginea from Romania
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| cosmln |
Posted on 12-08-2007 16:55
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 Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
Hi, i really don't know where to put this one. photographed in Retezat Mountain (~1200m) in 27.june.2007 size aprox 10mm sorry for the quality. thanks for any help, cosmln [EDIT] title changed cosmln attached the following image:  [129.65Kb] Edited by cosmln on 12-08-2007 19:01 Cosmin-Ovidiu Manci biology & photography ********************** http://cosmln.nature4stock.com - cosmln's place http://dragonfly.nature4stock.com - Dragonflies of Romania http://insects.nature4stock.com - just insects http://mybiosis.org/nature/portal.php?pagename=firstpage - a romanian flora & fauna database and not only ********************** DSLR Collecting Saves Lives! ********************** " Only after the last tree has been cut down, only after the last river has been poisoned, only after the last fish has been caught, only then will you find that money can not be eaten. " an old indian saying |
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| cosmln |
Posted on 12-08-2007 16:57
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
second and last
cosmln attached the following image:  [114.98Kb] |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 12-08-2007 17:37
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9229 Joined: 24.05.05 |
As far as I know it is unusual Syrphidae - Brachyopa
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 12-08-2007 17:50
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
Hammerschmidtia (Syrphidae)
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 12-08-2007 18:03
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Absolutely. I only know H. ferruginea, don't know ingrica. Great great find !  Stephane. |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 12-08-2007 18:24
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
According to Fauna Europea, it should be H. ferruginea (ingrica is an East palaearctic species).
Edited by Stephane Lebrun on 12-08-2007 18:25 Stephane. |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 12-08-2007 18:47
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
East european, not quite East palearctic. The species name ingrica, is derived from the old Russian province Ingria, the land around St. Petersburg. Edited by Kahis on 12-08-2007 18:48 Kahis |
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| amalia_raluca |
Posted on 12-08-2007 18:52
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 Member Location: Romania Posts: 590 Joined: 22.03.07 |
This specie was considered disappeared by one of our specialist- Ms Stanescu Carmen. She mentioned that in her PhD thesis - Faunistical, zoogeographical and ecological research concerning syrphids (Diptera, Syrphidae) from Romania (1996). in Bradescu V. (1991) the specie is mentioned from Retezat Mountain, Ciucas Mountain, Barlad Plateau and Sibiu Depression, but he didn't mentioned the dates of the captures, so the specimens could be from the collection of the museums. Anyway, congratulation Cosmin: with your photos you can prove that the specie is still present in our country. |
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| cosmln |
Posted on 12-08-2007 18:58
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
thanks to all for the help. is good to know about this species. from what i have studied on the internet, in some contry there are some action plans for recovery of this species. is good for me to know that (im biologist there in Retezat National Park). in general appear that everywhere is rare. again thanks, cosmln p.s. i will change the title and upload also this photo to the gallery (is not in the gallery) p.s.2 Paul please move this topic in syrphid section |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 12-08-2007 20:26
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
Well, here in Finland it is not particularly rare, once you know where to look for the fly. And the larvae are even easier, almost trival to find, if you know what kind of tree they prefers. Almost avaery suitable tree is colonised here. We still have a number of largeish old aspen around, even though foresters have actively tried to eradicate the tree from our forests 
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| caliprobola |
Posted on 13-08-2007 09:58
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Member Location: Belgium Posts: 203 Joined: 24.05.07 |
very nice, first time I see a pic of this syrphid. unfortunately this nice species is absent from Belgium |
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| crex |
Posted on 13-08-2007 11:14
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 Member Location: Sweden Posts: 1996 Joined: 22.05.06 |
Nice pix. Submit to the gallery!  |
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| cosmln |
Posted on 13-08-2007 17:27
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
crex wrote: Nice pix. Submit to the gallery! DONE cosmln |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 13-08-2007 17:29
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
i think that once time I saw something similar! But without photo I'm not sure. COngratulations for the great find! |
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but don't see the image in the post.