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Brazilian Stratiomyidae #2 - ID Help
Antonio Carlos
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Posted on 28-11-2012 15:36
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 Another Stratiomyidae, that I belive to be a Raphiocera sp., and would be great if someone could confirm its ID, as also, identify the fly of my thread "Brazilian Stratiomyidae #1", that until now was not replied.

Photo #1
c1.staticflickr.com/9/8345/8222625806_8ab26716a1_o.jpg

Coordinates of the place where I took this photo:
Latitude: -22.538442719452, Longitude: -43.228293657303

Date and time:
December 1, 2011 at 9.41.04am GMT+3

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c1.staticflickr.com/9/8483/8221540203_faed7d1807_b.jpg

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Latitude: -22.538442719452, Longitude: -43.228293657303

Date and time:
December 1, 2011 at 9.41.44am GMT+3

Thanks for help!
AC
Edited by Antonio Carlos on 02-03-2016 23:08
 
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Eric Fisher
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 This beautiful fly is Heptozus sp. It is on the cover of this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Manual-Central-American-Diptera-v/dp/0660198339 .
 
John Carr
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 The antennae are different. Are they highly variable within Heptozus? See thread 45072.

http://www.dipter...d_id=45072
 
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 Ah, I didn't see that thread...thanks John. I need to follow ChrisR's advice and leave the strats alone!

I notice the coloration of the thorax is a bit different too. Since Steve Marshall's photo is ID'd as Heptozus sp., I assume there is some variation among the two presently known species of this genus (MCAD: 543). But this same source does mention Lysozus as a better alternative antenna-wise.
 
Antonio Carlos
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 I found an article with nice pictures of this fly, where Diego Aguilar Fachin, from USP - Ribeirão Preto (SP) and João Paulo Morselli, from Department of Zoology, Insect Sistematic Laboratory, UNESP/Botucatu (SP), identified this fly as Raphiocera sp..

You can check the article here:

http://www.ra-bug...php?id=967

And the gallery with pictures here:

http://www.ra-bug...php?id=967

I would like to know what all of you have to say about this ID.
Thanks you all.
AC
 
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 I can see several minor differences in the fly in the article (different pale markings, C extended past tip of R5, indentation in dark patch at tip of R1 is triangular). I assume these make it a closely related species, but they could be sexual dimorphism, intraspecific variation, or even generic characters.
 
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Antonio Carlos
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 Thanks, John!
Now I see.
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/acbc
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 Hi Antonio, the photos are not available...
 
Antonio Carlos
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rlfalaschi wrote:
Hi Antonio, the photos are not available...


Sorry!!
Now it is visible again.
 
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Dmitry Gavryushin
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 I'm inclined to consider this fly (as well as a similar Brazilian one elsewhere in the Forum) Raphiocera armata (Wiedemann). Fits imho the description in James, 1943 (Ann.Ent.Soc.Am. XXXVI: 376 as Basentidema coerulescens, sp.n.; synonymy in Pimentel&Pujol-Luz, 2001). Scape is not elongate so not a Heptozus (extralimital as well). As far as I know Lysozus Enderlein, 1914 mentioned here is a rather enigmatic genus.
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