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 Brazilian Stratiomyidae #2 - ID Help
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| Antonio Carlos |
Posted on 28-11-2012 16:36
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 Member Location: Petropolis, RJ - Brazil Posts: 107 Joined: 27.04.11 |
Another Stratiomyidae, that I belive to be a Raphiocera sp., and would be great if someone could confirm its ID, as also, identify the fly of my thread "Brazilian Stratiomyidae #1", that until now was not replied. Photo #1  Coordinates of the place where I took this photo: Latitude: -22.538442719452, Longitude: -43.228293657303 Date and time: December 1, 2011 at 9.41.04am GMT+3 Photo #2  Coordinates of the place where I took this photo: Latitude: -22.538442719452, Longitude: -43.228293657303 Date and time: December 1, 2011 at 9.41.44am GMT+3 Thanks for help! AC Edited by Antonio Carlos on 03-03-2016 00:08 |
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| Eric Fisher |
Posted on 28-11-2012 19:48
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 Member Location: California Posts: 435 Joined: 19.05.06 |
This beautiful fly is Heptozus sp. It is on the cover of this book: http://www.amazon.com/Manual-Central-American-Diptera-v/dp/0660198339 . |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 29-11-2012 03:12
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 Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 10176 Joined: 22.10.10 |
The antennae are different. Are they highly variable within Heptozus? See thread 45072. http://www.dipter...d_id=45072 |
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| Eric Fisher |
Posted on 29-11-2012 08:38
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Member Location: California Posts: 435 Joined: 19.05.06 |
Ah, I didn't see that thread...thanks John. I need to follow ChrisR's advice and leave the strats alone! I notice the coloration of the thorax is a bit different too. Since Steve Marshall's photo is ID'd as Heptozus sp., I assume there is some variation among the two presently known species of this genus (MCAD: 543). But this same source does mention Lysozus as a better alternative antenna-wise. |
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| Antonio Carlos |
Posted on 29-11-2012 16:03
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Member Location: Petropolis, RJ - Brazil Posts: 107 Joined: 27.04.11 |
I found an article with nice pictures of this fly, where Diego Aguilar Fachin, from USP - Ribeirão Preto (SP) and João Paulo Morselli, from Department of Zoology, Insect Sistematic Laboratory, UNESP/Botucatu (SP), identified this fly as Raphiocera sp.. You can check the article here: http://www.ra-bug...php?id=967 And the gallery with pictures here: http://www.ra-bug...php?id=967 I would like to know what all of you have to say about this ID. Thanks you all. AC |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 29-11-2012 16:11
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Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 10176 Joined: 22.10.10 |
I can see several minor differences in the fly in the article (different pale markings, C extended past tip of R5, indentation in dark patch at tip of R1 is triangular). I assume these make it a closely related species, but they could be sexual dimorphism, intraspecific variation, or even generic characters. |
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| Antonio Carlos |
Posted on 29-11-2012 19:51
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Member Location: Petropolis, RJ - Brazil Posts: 107 Joined: 27.04.11 |
Thanks, John! Now I see. |
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| rlfalaschi |
Posted on 02-02-2016 20:49
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Member Location: Posts: 16 Joined: 08.02.11 |
Hi Antonio, the photos are not available... |
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| Antonio Carlos |
Posted on 03-03-2016 00:11
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Member Location: Petropolis, RJ - Brazil Posts: 107 Joined: 27.04.11 |
rlfalaschi wrote: Hi Antonio, the photos are not available... Sorry!! Now it is visible again. |
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 30-11-2016 16:27
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 Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3308 Joined: 17.10.05 |
I'm inclined to consider this fly (as well as a similar Brazilian one elsewhere in the Forum) Raphiocera armata (Wiedemann). Fits imho the description in James, 1943 (Ann.Ent.Soc.Am. XXXVI: 376 as Basentidema coerulescens, sp.n.; synonymy in Pimentel&Pujol-Luz, 2001). Scape is not elongate so not a Heptozus (extralimital as well). As far as I know Lysozus Enderlein, 1914 mentioned here is a rather enigmatic genus.
Edited by Dmitry Gavryushin on 30-11-2016 16:27 While others can't climb, using infinite pains, I, gravity turning to jest, Ascend, with all ease, perpendicular planes, Rough or smooth, just as pleases me best. |
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