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 Chloropidae, Incertella kerteszi
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| JariF |
Posted on 27-11-2011 11:18
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
Hi, this Chloropidae has very thick arista but the 3rd antennal segment is rounded. I can't find the family ... How does Melanochaeta look like ? June 26. 2011 Loviisa, Finland and malaise trap. Jari JariF attached the following image:  [98.2Kb] Edited by JariF on 15-09-2013 08:07 |
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| JariF |
Posted on 27-11-2011 12:03
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
Jus came to my mind ... maybe this is not Chloropidae at all but Agromyzidae  |
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| Sara21392 |
Posted on 27-11-2011 14:19
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I think it is Chloropidae and looks you are right about Melanochaeta, Jari; But for sure, do you have another angles? 
Edited by Sara21392 on 27-11-2011 14:20 Sincerely yours Sara |
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| JariF |
Posted on 27-11-2011 14:37
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
I can take more pictures if You like Sara. I ended to Melanochaeta with Collin as arista is flattened and pubescent. Very tick in fact. Then there are only three possibilies: Melanochaeta, Gampsocera and Elachiptera and Melanochaeta is the only one with rounded third antellal joint. What kind of angles You like to have ? This is interesting, because it would be new species to Finland if it really is Melanochaeta capreolus |
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| Sara21392 |
Posted on 27-11-2011 15:13
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I need 3 pics for sure, from above of body and head, also wings clearly! If you can take I will be thanks!
Sincerely yours Sara |
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| JariF |
Posted on 27-11-2011 19:42
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
Here is one more picture. (More in Your private mail ) Jari JariF attached the following image:  [192.11Kb] |
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| JariF |
Posted on 27-11-2011 22:05
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
After some mails and pictures and keys I believe we have Malanochaeta opaca, Duda 1932 in this picture. If so, it will be a new species to our fauna again Thank You Sara ! Jari |
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| JariF |
Posted on 03-12-2011 07:34
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
I got confirmation from Antti Haarto and yes, we have a new species again |
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| nielsyese |
Posted on 03-12-2011 14:43
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 Member Location: Yerseke, NL Posts: 2335 Joined: 13.02.09 |
Good job! |
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| Sara21392 |
Posted on 09-12-2011 12:59
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Sincerely yours Sara |
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| JariF |
Posted on 15-09-2013 08:07
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
Now I must make a correction. We have a new Chloropidae-book and after careful examination master Kahis gave his judgement. Even the arista looks thick indeed, this species is in fact Incertella kerteszi, not Melanochaeta opaca. Good to have everhing correct |
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but don't see the image in the post.