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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 25-09-2009 20:56
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Because I don't want Liekele to get bored, can Sarcophaga (Robineauella) caerulescens be confirmed with this peculiar aedeagus ? Date : Sept 11, 2009 Location : Le Havre, in wood. Size : 15 mm. Stephane Lebrun attached the following image:  [90.95Kb] Stephane. |
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| Liekele Sijstermans |
Posted on 25-09-2009 23:09
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Member Location: Geldermalsen Netherlands Posts: 305 Joined: 16.04.05 |
Stephan, Why do you doubt your id? Is it the literature your using? When using Povolny 1997 you might have some doubt, because the real thing looks different from the drawing. But Rohdendorf 1937 and Lehrer 2008 will leave you little doubt. This is indeed Sarcophaga (Robineauella) caerulescens. Liekele |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 26-09-2009 09:27
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Thanks a lot Liekele, I use Pape 1987 and Povolny & Verves 1997, and it's true the drawings can bring doubts in the latter. Furthermore, there might have some french Sarcophaga that are not covered by this litterature, as this is the case for S. jeanleclercqi I find rather frequently in my area. Stephane. |
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| Gordon |
Posted on 26-09-2009 18:09
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 Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1097 Joined: 02.01.08 |
I can't help wondering what the rest of it looks like |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 26-09-2009 18:15
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Oh, it really looks like any other Sarcophaga. But I can make a photo if you want...
Stephane. |
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| Liekele Sijstermans |
Posted on 26-09-2009 20:07
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Member Location: Geldermalsen Netherlands Posts: 305 Joined: 16.04.05 |
I have checked several resources. There are only two species known of Sarcophaga (Robineauella) in Europe at this moment. The second species (pseudoscoparia) being different. If you like Sarcophagidae, at least your are the only one showing us there genitalia on diptera.info, you should try to get a copy of Rohdendorf 1937. The drawings of genitalia are schematic but very helpful. Most of his drawings are also in Bei Bienko, but with lower quality. Also drawings of Lehrer in his Fragmenta Dipterologica are helpful though his view on nomenclature is different from other autors on Sarcophagidae, which might be confusing sometimes. Liekele |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 26-09-2009 21:04
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9229 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Stephane, do you need Bei Bienko?
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 27-09-2009 10:17
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Liekele, thanks for your kind attention, and the litterature reference. Nikita, it is with pleasure I accept your offer. Stephane. |
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but don't see the image in the post.