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Lordiphosa andalusiaca
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Posted on 01-06-2024 15:46
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 Hi everyone,

This drosophilidae was found in a composter (north of France) :

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos343/big/P1420583%20873%2025%20mm%20corps%2028%20mai%20lauxaniinae%20sapromyzospma.jpg
jean-claude josien : France : Lens : 62300 : 28/05/2024
Altitude : 36 m - Taille : 2,5 mm
Réf. : 343561

Unable to discriminate the head micro-setae with my gear, the question is : does S.flava is the only one to present such a truncate oviscapt ?


www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos343/big/P1420577%20702.jpg
jean-claude josien : France : Lens : 62300 : 28/05/2024
Altitude : 36 m - Taille : 2,5 mm
Réf. : 343648

Thanks.
Edited by BB on 03-06-2024 17:38
 
Jan Maca
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 I would rather consider Lordiphosa andalusiaca, Is it possible to get less granulated picture?
 
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Posted on 01-06-2024 20:36
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 Here it is, without any accentuation :

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos343/big/DI.jpg
jean-claude josien : France : Lens : 62300 : 28/05/2024
Altitude : 36 m - Taille : 2,5 mm
Réf. : 343757

And the whole dorsal view :

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos343/big/P1420583%201334%2025%20mm%20corps%2028%20mai%20lanxaniinae%20sapromyzospma.jpg
jean-claude josien : France : Lens : 62300 : 28/05/2024
Altitude : 36 m - Taille : 2,5 mm
Réf. : 343562
 
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 S, flava has indeed truncate oviscapt. In this specimen it is more oblong, although it is not well discernible in the picture. Also, mesonotum is more glossy, etc. I stay at L. andalusiaca.
 
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Posted on 02-06-2024 08:01
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 Thanks.
Maybe another opinion to confirm?
 
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 I agree completely with Jan. Tip of ovipositor is rounded in lateral view, not truncate. The darkish smudges on the pleura also indicate Lordiphosa.
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 Thank you both.
 
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