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Muscidae?
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davenicholls |
Posted on 08-06-2008 17:34
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Member Location: Leicester, England Posts: 240 Joined: 27.04.07 |
This species was commonly seen on buttercups this weekend. Can anyone help with the ID please?
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davenicholls |
Posted on 08-06-2008 17:34
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Member Location: Leicester, England Posts: 240 Joined: 27.04.07 |
another view
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ChrisR |
Posted on 08-06-2008 18:10
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Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
I can say it's a muscid but others will say more, I am sure |
Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 08-06-2008 20:08
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Do you have any closer view of the second picture ?
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davenicholls |
Posted on 08-06-2008 21:21
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Member Location: Leicester, England Posts: 240 Joined: 27.04.07 |
This photo isn't very good and probably doesn't add much, though it is from a more oblique angle - hope it helps.
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Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 08-06-2008 21:30
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
This is not the same fly, this is a male (eyes contiguous), the former was a female.
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davenicholls |
Posted on 08-06-2008 21:38
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Member Location: Leicester, England Posts: 240 Joined: 27.04.07 |
Sorry Stephane, it was the next photo I took so must have focussed on a different fly. There were many, nearly every other buttercup seemed to have a resident fly! Is it possible to narrow it down from the two previous photos? Many thanks. |
Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 08-06-2008 21:40
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9357 Joined: 24.05.05 |
There is not garancy that 1-st and 2-nd flies is the same too. Nevertheless: 1. Muscidae? I think so, I think all 3 images are of Muscidae. 2. N2 (and probably N1 too) - my guess is Thricops. 3. N3 - I don't know Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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davenicholls |
Posted on 08-06-2008 21:49
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Member Location: Leicester, England Posts: 240 Joined: 27.04.07 |
Thanks - I must take more care to record my photos in future! |
Sundew |
Posted on 08-06-2008 21:52
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Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3916 Joined: 28.07.07 |
The middle one looks so familiar to me - we have lots of such flies around, and they were determined by Michael Ackland as Hydrophoria lancifer (Anthomyiidae). I'd really like to know why this one should be a Muscid (or can you see that the anal veins do not reach the margin? My eye lacks your skill). Regards, Sundew |
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Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 08-06-2008 22:02
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
4 postsutural dc.
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Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 08-06-2008 22:07
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9357 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Also it seems that it has pd in apical 1/3, also N1 has "non-Anthomyiidae abdomen dusting" I'd rather cancel Thricops guess, I'd say N1 and N2 most probably belong to Azelini Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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