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Musca cf. osiris? -> Muscidae sp.
karl7
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Posted on 08-12-2025 16:13
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A lovely evening. One Question please. Could this be Musca osiris? Unfortunately I only have this one photo. I would be very grateful for an answer.
Finding data: Austria, Lower Austria, Tattendorf, 220m, flowering meadow next to Auwald, July 31, 2025, size approx. 6-7mm

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Have a nice Day. I'd like to ask again if anyone might have any ideas about my Diptera species. I would be very grateful for a reply.

Kind regards Karl.
 
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I think it's not a Musca sp..
Greetings, Eric
 
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Hello Eric thank you for the Answer. Maybe I'll find them again next year and be able to photograph them better. The family Muscidae should be correct, right?

Kind regards Karl.
 
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Muscidae is correct, but the cell r4+5 is less narrowed than in Musca. Also, the colour of the thorax looks metallic green like Eudasyphora. Let's try it again next year.
Greetings, Eric
 
Juergen Peters
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Hello Eric,

Musca osiris was originally my idea (in other forum), after I found no similar fly in the gallery or elsewhere on the net. Mostly the orange triangle markings at the abdomen excluded all flies like Eudasyphora or similar. I don't know, what else it could be. Frown

Please take a look at this picture:
https://www.inatu...sca-osiris (weak bend in M vein)

and this one:
https://www.inatu...sca-osiris (bluish thorax gloss)
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Jürgen

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Hello Jürgen, thanks for the info. I understand why you chose M. osiris, but this single image is not enough to be sure (eyes should be densley haired, anterior spiracle white...)
Greetings, Eric
 
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