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black slender fly - Morinia (Calliphoridae)
Sundew
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Posted on 29-05-2008 23:29
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Hi,
This black fly from yesterday needs a name, and I have no idea. Help is greatly appreciated!
Many thanks, Sundew
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Tony Irwin
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I'm intrigued by this one, and surprised that no-one has replied.
Claudia - can you re-post as "Strange Anthomyiid/Rhinophorid?" to see if we can get a response from Mike or Theo? I don't know any calypterate that has dark wings held over its abdomen like this, but someone must recognise it!
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Stephane Lebrun
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Posted on 01-06-2008 23:43
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I lightened the picture : M1+2 is bent. My guess is Calliphoridae, perhaps Morinia doronici (=melanoptera) (wings are too dark for Melanomya nana)...
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Yes, it looks like Morinia from Japan.
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Not a UK species, so not surprising I didn't recognise it - this would be a good one for the gallery!
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Dear friends,
I am delighted that my blackie has received a name at last; my hope for a reply was already nearly gone! Now I see the reason - it seems to be a taxon not too common. I have so many pictures of this fly, so I photoshopped another one to see what St?phane found out concerning the wing veins. It is a calliphorid pattern indeed! Melanomya nana I saw several times meanwhile, and it never folded its wings that way; moreover, its abdomen seems to bear much more and longer hairs. I add some pics for comparison, taken on the same day at the same locality.
So do you authorize me to submit a photo for the gallery under the name Morinia doronici, or shall I add a "cf."? I would refer to St?phane as identifier.
Many thanks for all your help, Sundew

Here are the lightened wing tips:
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This should be a Melanomya nana:
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It would be great to have these in the gallery too! Grin
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