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Aka	#1 Posted on 02-03-2006 18:42
Member Location: Posts: 3 Joined: 02.03.06	Hello everybody, I took the following two pictures showing the same fly couple at 8th September 2005 in Zwickau, Germany at a glade near a pond. I'd like to upload them to the Wikipedia projects, but I do not know which species it is. All people I already asked told me that it is complicated to find out. All I know is that it could be the family Anthomyiidae or Muscidae. I've been referred to this forum, because here "are the real experts". So, you are my last hope. I would be very happy if you can help. larger version of this image: http://upload.wik..._(aka).jpg larger version of this image: http://upload.wik..._(aka).jpg Thanks a lot, Andr Edited by Aka on 08-03-2006 12:54


Paul Beuk	#2 Posted on 02-03-2006 20:06
Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19229 Joined: 11.05.04	I guess Anthomyiidae but going further would stretch my credability. Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info


Aka	#3 Posted on 21-03-2006 19:19
Member Location: Posts: 3 Joined: 02.03.06	Is there really no one who can help here?


Nikita Vikhrev	#4 Posted on 21-03-2006 20:51
Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9223 Joined: 24.05.05	Dear Aka, as far as know, realy nobody can help you. I mean nodoby at all, not only in this forum. Anthomyiidae is difficult family, which badly needs full revision. There is some hearsay that this work is in process, but anyway not finished yet. You can use this photo as good image of copulating Anthomyiidae sp. May be in future somebody ID it farther. Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University


Perseus	#5 Posted on 22-03-2006 13:39
Member Location: Posts: 55 Joined: 11.08.05	Clear pictures. What equipment did you use to take the photographs please?


Susan R Walter	#6 Posted on 22-03-2006 13:53
Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1799 Joined: 14.01.06	Aka Truly - Anthomyiids are very difficult. Many of the females have not been described and many of the males require dissection to ID to species level. Michael Ackland has created a draft key for the British species, which is available from him directly. However, if you are not used to using keys and don't have much experience with diptera in general, this particular key would be extremely daunting. Although I will make great use of it, it is very dense and needs perserverance and motivation to work through, and to do it from a photograph without a specimen would be impossible to species level. Susan


Aka	#7 Posted on 23-03-2006 20:48
Member Location: Posts: 3 Joined: 02.03.06	Hello everybody, thanks for the answers. I now definitely know thats difficult to identify @Perseus: Nikon D70 / Tamron 90 / SB-800


verner	#8 Posted on 25-12-2010 14:35
Member Location: Posts: 24 Joined: 19.12.10	Delia radicum. Notice dense setae at base of hind femoro in the male. verner