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 Sarcophagidae with golden parafacialia--> Amobia signata
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 05-09-2021 12:25
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 Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 668 Joined: 23.03.06 |
One of a pair of flesh flies reared from a Crabronidae nest, 8/july/2021 (Spain: Catalonia: Girona: Girona city), 7.2 mm. Any guess of a species?
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 05-09-2021 12:28
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 668 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Lateral
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 05-09-2021 12:30
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 668 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Dorsal
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 05-09-2021 12:53
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 668 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Ventral--- it must be a female, I think
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| John Carr |
Posted on 05-09-2021 13:51
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Genus Amobia (row of hairs in place of orbital bristles). |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 05-09-2021 19:04
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 668 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Thanks John, here in Spain there are only two species recorded, A.oculata and A.signata. It looks different to them, and somehow similar to the australian A.auriceps, but being a female it must be difficult to run a species, I guess |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 06-09-2021 10:07
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18796 Joined: 21.07.04 |
?? Looks like a male to me. Check the genitalia Theo |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 06-09-2021 15:00
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 668 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Thanks Theo. It is in the steam chamber now. I was used to e. g. Lucilia males with well exserted genitalia and so I thought it was a female... |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 06-09-2021 17:41
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18796 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Well, genitalia are highly informative in Amobia, so keep us posted We need a lateral shot (of the genitalia) Theo |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 07-09-2021 11:08
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 668 Joined: 23.03.06 |
I have little experience so it was with KOH only 5 min
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 07-09-2021 11:09
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With only transmitted light
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 07-09-2021 11:10
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 668 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Should I macerate it more time ? Or split the capsule from the rest ? I only hope is not too late |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 07-09-2021 12:30
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 Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2136 Joined: 24.07.04 |
I guess this should be Amobia signata, but let the experts respond!
Jan Willem van Zuijlen |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 07-09-2021 15:02
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 668 Joined: 23.03.06 |
after 10 min KOH
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 07-09-2021 15:04
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 668 Joined: 23.03.06 |
more dried, some appendages pushed backwards
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 10-09-2021 11:45
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 668 Joined: 23.03.06 |
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/94307413 Thomas Pape has been written |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 10-09-2021 14:22
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Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2136 Joined: 24.07.04 |
Maybe Theo can say more now you posted the pictures of the genitalia.
Jan Willem van Zuijlen |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 10-09-2021 19:33
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18796 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Yes, he can ! Very clearly A. signata (unless you have some cryptic Iberian endemic) Theo |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 11-09-2021 22:14
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 668 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Thanks! Theo and Jan |
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