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Muscid England > Helina?
jck
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Posted on 05-05-2026 15:31
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Is t possible to ID this fly? SW England on 02/05/2025.

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Nobody?
 
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Hi James, that fly looks very interesting and could be a Helina, but I could not use the key due to missing characteristics. To exclude Mydaea: do the original photos show setulae dorsally on the radial node? Maybe it helps to add "Helina?" to the title?
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Thanks for your reply.

I can't see setulae on the originals but this may not be conclusive as the ISO-rating is 1600 and tiny details may not be visible.

As far as Helina is concerned, the cross vein r-m does seem to be noticeably darker and more like Helina.

James
 
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Compare Helina deleta:
https://diptera.i...d_id=91684
Greetings, Eric
 
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Thanks Eric, that would be very special here. The species was added to the UK list fairly recently and there are only a couple of records so far. I don't think my photos show all the details necessary for a positive ID.

James
 
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