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Tabanus autumnalis? => Tabanus bromius
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Posted on 18-07-2021 13:01

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10.07.21, Germany, South West Area, Schreckensee, marsh area, in wood close to lake, ca. 12 mm. Sorry for the limited view of the species in the picture.
Mtfyfe attached the following image:

Edited by Mtfyfe on 18-07-2021 22:38
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Posted on 18-07-2021 13:39

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Hi, it's not T. autumnalis, which has a completely black antenna.
See Veldgids DAZEN (Diptera -Tabanidae) van Noordwest-Europa, Zeegers & Schulten.

Quite difficult to see but I guess it's probably a T. sudeticus - but it should be longer than 12 mm.
Greetings, Eric
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Posted on 18-07-2021 14:56

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It is actually bromius, the pattern on abdomen is characteristic. And if you have a very close look, you can see the eyeband.

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Posted on 18-07-2021 15:40

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Thanks Theo - yes, now I see a bit of the eyeband (and the 12 mm fit).
Greetings, Eric
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Posted on 18-07-2021 22:39

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Thank you Eric and Theo,
especially the hint to the eye band, this helps really a lot.
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