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 Heleomyzidae, Suillia parva group? from Romania
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| cosmln |
Posted on 01-12-2007 23:37
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 Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
Hi, today (couple hours ago) (1 december 2007) i found this fly on a wall at a light. I think is some kind on heleomyzid, Suillia ? (at first i was thinked also to Dryomyzidae). something more can be sayd? i will add later also a photo of the mounted specimen. thanks in advance, cosmln [EDIT]: title changed, again cosmln attached the following image:  [108.48Kb] Edited by cosmln on 06-12-2007 22:11 |
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| cosmln |
Posted on 01-12-2007 23:39
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
last one (for now)
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| Sundew |
Posted on 01-12-2007 23:46
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 Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3890 Joined: 28.07.07 |
If Kahis's rule " 5 dorsocentral setae per row - 1 before suture, 4 behind" always brings us to Suillia, this should be one! Regards, Sundew |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 02-12-2007 10:21
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
As it is 
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 03-12-2007 18:53
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2340 Joined: 05.01.06 |
Suillia correctly !. Andrzej |
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| cosmln |
Posted on 05-12-2007 20:50
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
Andrzej wrote: Suillia correctly !. Andrzej Hi, thanks to all, learned something new. after checking haed's supracervical setulae near neck, this are white... this will make an Suillia affinis? two more photos of mounted specimen, cosmln cosmln attached the following image:  [107.41Kb] |
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| cosmln |
Posted on 05-12-2007 20:51
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
last one, head detail
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 06-12-2007 13:54
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2340 Joined: 05.01.06 |
Not S. affinis. Arista is short pubescent !. Maybe S. parva complex. Andrzej |
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| cosmln |
Posted on 06-12-2007 22:10
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
Andrzej wrote: Not S. affinis. Arista is short pubescent !. Maybe S. parva complex. Andrzej Hi Andrzej, i will try to prepare genitalia next week. you think will be possible to put a name after? thanks, cosmln |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 07-12-2007 19:26
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2340 Joined: 05.01.06 |
Of course Andrzej |
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| cosmln |
Posted on 18-12-2007 21:57
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
Andrzej wrote: Of course Andrzej Hi Andrzej, just now was time for genitalia. here it is, if something more exactly needed to be illustrated just let me know. forget to add that the size of specimen is of 7-8 mm thanks for the help, cosmln cosmln attached the following image:  [75.61Kb] Edited by cosmln on 18-12-2007 21:59 |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 19-12-2007 12:14
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2340 Joined: 05.01.06 |
HMM, PLEASE MAKE A PHOTO FROM THE VNTRAL SIDE OF GONOSTYLI (=DISTISTYLI). probably not a parva  .Andrzej |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 19-12-2007 13:10
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
S. vaginata?
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| cosmln |
Posted on 19-12-2007 20:46
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
Andrzej wrote: HMM, PLEASE MAKE A PHOTO FROM THE VNTRAL SIDE OF GONOSTYLI (=DISTISTYLI). probably not a parva .Andrzej Hi Andrzej, i tried to make some photo but... i reallt don't know what is that gonostylus... this what i have learned in a faculty including one year of entomology. also in glossary this terms are not presented. i will be glad to learn any new info so here is the genitalia totally messed up... maybe you found there what is needed. thanks for all the help to all, cosmln cosmln attached the following image:  [86.86Kb] |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 11-01-2008 18:13
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2340 Joined: 05.01.06 |
It is Suillia pallida Andrzej |
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| cosmln |
Posted on 11-01-2008 18:49
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
Andrzej wrote: It is Suillia pallida Andrzej Hi Andrzej, thanks. so in all this mess you have found something usefull.  cosmln |
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but don't see the image in the post.