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| Gerard Pennards |
Posted on 25-02-2008 21:31
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 Member Location: Amersfoort Posts: 1914 Joined: 07.06.04 |
This is a new family for diptera.info. In Europe there is just one genus (Cryptochetum) with 3 species (buccatum, grandicorne and jorgepastori). These intersting little flies are endoparasites of Homoptera, Coccoidea. The interesting part is that they look just like a genus in the Chalcidoid wasp family Pteromalidae (Scutellista), which exhibit the same biology! Cryptochetidae have a large third antennal segment but no arista! Greetings Gerard Pennards attached the following image:  [48.25Kb] Greetings, Gerard Pennards |
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| Gerard Pennards |
Posted on 25-02-2008 21:34
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Member Location: Amersfoort Posts: 1914 Joined: 07.06.04 |
Cryptochetum sp., is there anybody who could tell me the species?
Gerard Pennards attached the following image:  [55.57Kb] Greetings, Gerard Pennards |
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| Gerard Pennards |
Posted on 25-02-2008 21:35
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Member Location: Amersfoort Posts: 1914 Joined: 07.06.04 |
Detail of the head and antenna,
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| crex |
Posted on 25-02-2008 21:48
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 Member Location: Sweden Posts: 1996 Joined: 22.05.06 |
Where and when did you find it? |
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| Gerard Pennards |
Posted on 25-02-2008 21:52
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Member Location: Amersfoort Posts: 1914 Joined: 07.06.04 |
Ah yes, the details, I?m sorry! It has been caught last summer in Spain, and it?s a very small fly, smaller than 2 mm Greetings Greetings, Gerard Pennards |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 25-02-2008 22:12
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
In which place, please? I hope near Salamanca.  Great! I also hope to find the extremely rare RICHACERIDAE.  |
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| crex |
Posted on 25-02-2008 22:46
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Member Location: Sweden Posts: 1996 Joined: 22.05.06 |
Maybe you can find something useful in this spanish article - El inter?s biol?gico del g?nero Cryptochaetum Rond. Diptera, Cryptochaetidae y descripci?n de una nueva especie by Cadahia 1984. |
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| crex |
Posted on 25-02-2008 22:57
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Member Location: Sweden Posts: 1996 Joined: 22.05.06 |
If someone is interested in C. grandicorne, here is an old 32 page article The Biology and Development of Cryptochaetum grandicorne (Diptera), an Internal Parasite of Guerinia serratulae (Coccidae) by Thorpe. |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 26-02-2008 11:00
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
thanks crex. Huelva.. hmm... I was there many times! They have a fabulous Xiphias gladius with the fruit of Citrus lemon......  hmmmmmm....... (in general, in Spain the food is crap... but this is a very good dish!) |
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 19-03-2016 12:31
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 Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1066 Joined: 23.04.10 |
This is jorgepastori. The little "tooth" at the end of the Antenna is characteristic for this species. This species is described in this article: http://www.magrama.gob.es/ministerio/pags/Biblioteca/Revistas/pdf_plagas%2FBSVP-10-02-159-184.pdf. ¡Saludos!
errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 19-03-2016 12:58
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9347 Joined: 24.05.05 |
When you collect and small blackish flies (2 times less and more black than Phortica) persistently fly around your body and face - it is Cryptochetidae.
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 21-03-2016 10:35
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19375 Joined: 11.05.04 |
The same desceription you refer to gives an illustration of the wing that has the second costal section maybe twice as long as the third, but it is miuch more in the pictures above. That would fit C. buccatum.
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 21-03-2016 11:13
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1066 Joined: 23.04.10 |
Hello Paul, So now I have 1 stupid question: the form and relative length of the third segment of the antennae are not reliable?? ¡Saludos! 
Edited by Andre Burgers on 21-03-2016 11:15 errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 21-03-2016 13:46
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19375 Joined: 11.05.04 |
I do not know since these antennae are rather unique for the family but I know such variation in wing venation is very uncommon, to say the least.
Edited by Paul Beuk on 21-03-2016 13:47 Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 21-03-2016 15:08
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1066 Joined: 23.04.10 |
Perfectly explained, Magister, as always!! And my error with total clearness exposed. Thanks! Edited by Andre Burgers on 21-03-2016 15:14 errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 21-03-2016 21:09
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19375 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Possibly...
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 21-03-2016 22:41
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1066 Joined: 23.04.10 |
Probably!
errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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