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Oedalea spec (Hybotidae) (NL) => Oedalea flavipes
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blaauw7 |
Posted on 11-07-2013 21:06
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Member Location: Wageningen, Netherlands Posts: 2542 Joined: 22.09.07 |
Found today in in the river forelands river Rhine Netherlands. Hybotidae > Oedalea spec? Gr Dick blaauw7 attached the following image: [197.9Kb] Edited by blaauw7 on 03-11-2013 11:12 |
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blaauw7 |
Posted on 11-07-2013 21:08
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Member Location: Wageningen, Netherlands Posts: 2542 Joined: 22.09.07 |
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rvanderweele |
Posted on 11-07-2013 22:44
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Member Location: Zoelmond, the Netherlands Posts: 1984 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Absolutely an Oedalea, I think a O. tibialis, though I often feel very uncertain when dealing with this genus. Like Bicellaria not so easy. I need a bigger collection in order to get much more acquainted with this kind of genera.
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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Paul Beuk |
Posted on 12-07-2013 10:28
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19311 Joined: 11.05.04 |
I do not think tibialis, but without my key at hand I cannot say which species. The tip of the hind femur is also darkened and the fore and mid legs are partly brownish.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
rvanderweele |
Posted on 12-07-2013 10:36
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Member Location: Zoelmond, the Netherlands Posts: 1984 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Here in the office I have no access to the literature. I remember yesterday that I hesitated because the 3rd segment of the antennae looks so long, yet..... When I get Oedaleas I practically always have to compare them with the specimens in my collection. And even then I am often not 100% sure. Maybe not a bad idea to have my Oedalea collection checked by somebody, who is working on revisions or so. I have a quite a collection now. ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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blaauw7 |
Posted on 12-07-2013 11:10
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Member Location: Wageningen, Netherlands Posts: 2542 Joined: 22.09.07 |
I have two specimen. I will save one for you both. Thanks. Gr Dick |
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Paul Beuk |
Posted on 12-07-2013 11:15
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19311 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Ruud, I'd be happy to look at your Oealea collections. The Dutch ones are mostly quite straightforward, going to central and southern Europe it gets more tricky, I admit.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
rvanderweele |
Posted on 12-07-2013 11:18
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Member Location: Zoelmond, the Netherlands Posts: 1984 Joined: 01.11.06 |
I have to admit that I also have Hungarian material, Swedish etc etc
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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Paul Beuk |
Posted on 12-07-2013 18:02
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19311 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Scandinavia should be well-covered by Chvála's Fauna Ent. Scand. key...
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
Paul Beuk |
Posted on 28-10-2013 15:38
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19311 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Based on the genitalia and most of its general appearance it is Oedalea flavipes. The aberrant part is the hind metatarsus which should be pale at the base , rather than completely dark.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
blaauw7 |
Posted on 03-11-2013 11:12
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Member Location: Wageningen, Netherlands Posts: 2542 Joined: 22.09.07 |
Thanks Paul! Gr Dick |
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rvanderweele |
Posted on 03-11-2013 11:32
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Member Location: Zoelmond, the Netherlands Posts: 1984 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Paul, I received an Oedalea specimen from Dick. It is a beautiful O. hybotina. The markings on the wing are very obvious. The fly on the photo is another specimen; the fly here has the apical half of the hind femur blackish.
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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blaauw7 |
Posted on 03-11-2013 11:43
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Member Location: Wageningen, Netherlands Posts: 2542 Joined: 22.09.07 |
Ruud this is the O. hybotina you receved. It was allready dead, so I only made one photo. Gr Dick blaauw7 attached the following image: [154.85Kb] |
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rvanderweele |
Posted on 03-11-2013 11:59
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Member Location: Zoelmond, the Netherlands Posts: 1984 Joined: 01.11.06 |
yep. Very typical are the 2 spots on the wings.
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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