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Which Limoniidae with hairy wings? Which gender?--> Chaoborus spec
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RE Niks |
Posted on 31-07-2024 14:08
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I found this Limoniidae on my night illuminated sheet in the Netherlands. I highlighted three places that I found odd. Blue arrow: the usual straight cross vein has been replaced by a more fluent longitudinal vein, and the yellow arrows point to forks that both spring down instead of up. So, it cannot be Molophilus? And pictures added of genitalia: not hooks but neither an ovipositor. So: male or female? RE Niks attached the following image: ![]() [104.15Kb] Edited by RE Niks on 14-08-2024 16:59 |
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John Carr |
Posted on 31-07-2024 15:11
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The hairy veins (not membrane) are like Molophilus but the course of the veins is wrong. It is a different genus, probably close to Erioptera. |
RE Niks |
Posted on 31-07-2024 17:51
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Member Location: Posts: 137 Joined: 11.05.22 |
Thanks! Indeed, hairs on veins. I found, however, that all Erioptera species I could check do not have the fluently diagonal cross vein (all have the cross vein perpendicular) and also the points I indicated in yellow do not fit Erioptera, nor do the genitals. Which genera are closely related to Erioptera that I may check? Edited by RE Niks on 31-07-2024 17:52 |
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RE Niks |
Posted on 14-08-2024 17:00
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Member Location: Posts: 137 Joined: 11.05.22 |
I found that it should be a member of the Chaoboridae! |
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John Carr |
Posted on 14-08-2024 18:01
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![]() Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 10046 Joined: 22.10.10 |
RE Niks wrote: I found that it should be a member of the Chaoboridae! Indeed. I thought I saw two complete anal veins but there is only one. |
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