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Gray Muscids with partially reddish legs
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Juergen Peters |
Posted on 22-11-2007 23:27
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Hello! Three male Phaonias (?) from today in our garden/at our house (Ostwestfalen/Germany). All the same species? Thanks in advance! Juergen Peters attached the following image: ![]() [37.16Kb] Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
Juergen Peters |
Posted on 22-11-2007 23:28
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Same species?
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Juergen Peters |
Posted on 22-11-2007 23:28
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Another individual.
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Susan R Walter |
Posted on 23-11-2007 09:58
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The middle one's got the Phaonia bristle.
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Juergen Peters |
Posted on 23-11-2007 16:19
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Hello, Susan! Susan R Walter wrote: The middle one's got the Phaonia bristle. Thanks! Not the first time I have read here about the "Phaonia bristle", but still I'm not sure where to look for it... ![]() Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 23-11-2007 18:12
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Given the visible characters, my guess is Phaonia scutellata, but I can't be sure. The "Phaonia bristle" is the strong posterodorsal seta on apical third of hind tibia. Stephane. |
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Juergen Peters |
Posted on 23-11-2007 18:34
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Hello, Stephane! Stephane Lebrun wrote: Given the visible characters, my guess is Phaonia scutellata, but I can't be sure. The "Phaonia bristle" is the strong posterodorsal seta on apical third of hind tibia. Many thanks! But I must admit that I still can't see an especially strong bristle on the hind tibia on pic #2 ![]() Juergen Peters attached the following image: ![]() [17.3Kb] Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 23-11-2007 19:26
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I have to correct my guess : I think it is Phaonia tuguriorum rather than P. scutellata judging by the frons width. The "Phaonia bristle" is above the one you marked (wich is an apical bristle on t3). I marked it in blue. Stephane Lebrun attached the following image: ![]() [19.19Kb] Stephane. |
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Juergen Peters |
Posted on 23-11-2007 19:32
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Hello, Stephane! Stephane Lebrun wrote: I have to correct my guess : I think it is Phaonia tuguriorum rather than P. scutellata judging by the frons width. The "Phaonia bristle" is above the one you marked (wich is an apical bristle on t3). I marked it in blue. Thanks again! Now it is clear. Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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