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Gray Muscids with partially reddish legs
Juergen Peters
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Hello!

Three male Phaonias (?) from today in our garden/at our house (Ostwestfalen/Germany). All the same species? Thanks in advance!
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Same species?
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Another individual.
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The middle one's got the Phaonia bristle.
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Hello, Susan!

Susan R Walter wrote:
The middle one's got the Phaonia bristle.


Thanks! Not the first time I have read here about the "Phaonia bristle", but still I'm not sure where to look for it... Sad. I have no such specialized literature to look into, so please could you or someone else mark it on the photo or explain where to find it? Many thanks!
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Given the visible characters, my guess is Phaonia scutellata, but I can't be sure.
The "Phaonia bristle" is the strong posterodorsal seta on apical third of hind tibia.
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Hello, Stephane!

Stephane Lebrun wrote:
Given the visible characters, my guess is Phaonia scutellata, but I can't be sure.
The "Phaonia bristle" is the strong posterodorsal seta on apical third of hind tibia.


Many thanks! But I must admit that I still can't see an especially strong bristle on the hind tibia on pic #2 Sad. I see many bristles on all femurs, but no special on the tibia... Or is it the one marked with an arrow? Does it belong to the tibia?
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I have to correct my guess : I think it is Phaonia tuguriorum rather than P. scutellata judging by the frons width.
The "Phaonia bristle" is above the one you marked (wich is an apical bristle on t3). I marked it in blue.
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Hello, Stephane!

Stephane Lebrun wrote:
I have to correct my guess : I think it is Phaonia tuguriorum rather than P. scutellata judging by the frons width.
The "Phaonia bristle" is above the one you marked (wich is an apical bristle on t3). I marked it in blue.


Thanks again! Now it is clear.
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