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[Haematopota grandis] Haematopota pluvialis or not ?
Sord
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Posted on 09-12-2020 23:01
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Hello.
We find the antenna of this female a little long.
With the 3rd article with 4 segments, is it Haematopota pluvialis.
Thank you.

Bonjour.
Nous trouvons l'antenne de cette femelle un peu longue.
Avec le 3e article à 4 segments, est-ce bien Haematopota pluvialis.
Merci.

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Jérémie Lemarié : France : Sainte-Radégonde-des-Noyers : 85450 : 13/09/2020
Altitude : 3 m - Taille : 13 mm mesuré
Réf. : 272388

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Jérémie Lemarié : France : Sainte-Radégonde-des-Noyers : 85450 : 13/09/2020
Altitude : 3 m - Taille : 13 mm mesuré
Réf. : 272389

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Jérémie Lemarié : France : Sainte-Radégonde-des-Noyers : 85450 : 13/09/2020
Altitude : 3 m - Taille : 13 mm mesuré
Réf. : 272390

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Jérémie Lemarié : France : Sainte-Radégonde-des-Noyers : 85450 : 13/09/2020
Altitude : 3 m - Taille : 13 mm mesuré
Réf. : 272391

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I Agree. So, is it possible to see the abdomen in dorsal view, showing the tergites ?

Theo
 
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Not something like h. italica? First antennal segment seems to be really long for H. pluvialis to me-
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Hello Théo, Libor.
Thank you for your reply.
I only have this not great photo.

Bonjour Théo, Libor.
Merci de votre réponse.
Je n'ai que cette photo pas géniale.

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Looks like H. grandis?

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That is why I asked. Grandis it is.

Coastal locality ?

Theo
 
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The town is in the Marais Poitevin, 20 km as the Tabanidae flies., the Atlantic Ocean and 10 km from an estuary.

La commune est située dans le Marais Poitevin, à 20 km à vol de Taon, de l'océan Atlantique et à 10 km d'un estuaire.

Lat : 46° 22' 32.89'' N (46.3758031)
Long : 1° 4' 12.38'' W (-1.0701070)
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sounds like an excellent habitat for grandis.

Note that the date also almost excludes all our species.

Theo
 
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Thank you all so much!

Merci beaucoup à tous !

Jérémie
 
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