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Bibionidae: Male of Bibio lepidus? --> Dilophus femoratus
kuv
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Posted on 27-11-2020 12:38
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Northern Germany, Schleswig-Holstein, Bellin (east of Kiel), right by the lake Selenter See, at the wall of a tunnel for pedestrians beneath a street, 24th of May 2020, (Photo: kuv - only this one). Is my idea - after searching in the Diptera Gallery - ok? Please help to get the ID.
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Zeegers
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Posted on 27-11-2020 12:43
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Alas, no.
First of all, lepidus (currently: longipes) is a very late autumn species. Secondly, you can see the spines halfway the front tibia, hence Dilophus rather than Bibio. The apperent absence of an outplaced spine and the date strongly suggest B. femoratus.

Theo
 
kuv
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Posted on 27-11-2020 12:52
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Thank you very much Theo for correcting my idea. It's good to hear some informations about the flies. But sorry I think you mean not B. femoratus but which one ...?
Greetings Kuv
Edited by kuv on 27-11-2020 13:02
 
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Posted on 27-11-2020 17:23
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Hi Theo,
reading some threads of Bibionidae in Diptera.info-Forum I think you mean Dilophus femoratus. Additional I read that a safe ID needs picture of genitalia. So I'll write: Dilophus cf. femoratus. Thanks once more
Greetings Kuv
Edited by kuv on 27-11-2020 17:24
 
Zeegers
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Posted on 27-11-2020 20:00
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Yes, I did.
And study of genitalia is necessary, but not around Kiel.
Locality, date and picture strongly suggest femoratus, even if I have not seen its genitalia Smile

Theo
Edited by Zeegers on 28-11-2020 09:18
 
kuv
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Posted on 27-11-2020 22:21
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Well Theo, this is a very good message. Thank you very much.
Greetings Kuv
 
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