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 Slender, longlegged Tachinid from 12.08.20 --> Dinera carinifrons / fuscana
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 12-08-2020 17:57
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 Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14411 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, a 9 mm Tachinid on Heracleum sphondylium on a meadow next to a small creek this morning (northwest Germany). ID possible? BTW: There were many Tachinidae on the wing today: Ectophasia crassipennis, 3 Phasia species (barbifrons, obesa, hemiptera), Tachina (cf.) fera, Peleteria rubescens, Eriothrix rufomaculata, Mintho rufiventris, Epicampocera succincta, Linnaemya sp., Soliera sp., Siphona sp. and maybe others. I shot nearly 600 photos today (not only of Tachinids of course...  ). Some I'm planning to post here for ID or verification.
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 12-08-2020 17:57
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14411 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Pic #2
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 12-08-2020 17:58
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14411 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Pic #3
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| eklans |
Posted on 12-08-2020 18:48
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 4513 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Hi Jürgen, it's a Dinera - mid-dorsal depression of syntergite 1+2 does not reach the posterior margin = ferina. But: do you have a lateral shot, too? Reason: ferina should have 4 dc postsutural and I see only 3. To exclude carinifrons I'd like to see if the head's length is smaller than it's height. Greetings, Eric |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 12-08-2020 18:54
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19299 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Well spotted ! Note the excavation into syntergite 1&2 is not complete, so this might actually be carinifrons / fuscana. Note the species has been split recently by Ziegler. (that is, it is split by Shima for eastern Palaearctic and then found also in Europe by Ziegler). Theo |
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| eklans |
Posted on 13-08-2020 09:07
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 4513 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Thanks a lot Theo for the interesting information about carinifrons / fuscana. Where can I find a description of the differences - is fuscana brown anywhere? Regards, Eric |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 13-08-2020 10:37
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14411 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Thanks a lot, Eric and Theo! eklans wrote: But: do you have a lateral shot, too? I'm afraid, I don't. I always try to get as many angles as possible, but yesterday it was very windy (so hardly good pictures possible at all) and the fly was very busy. The three following pics are the most "lateral" I have. Juergen Peters attached the following image:  [114.66Kb] Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 13-08-2020 10:37
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14411 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Another one.
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 13-08-2020 10:38
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14411 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Third one.
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| eklans |
Posted on 13-08-2020 11:49
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 4513 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Hi Jürgen, on the last photo we can see: - face strongly protruding - 3 dc postsutural - excavation into syntergite 1&2 not complete So it's surely Dinera carinifrons / fuscana Kind regards, Eric |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 13-08-2020 14:08
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14411 Joined: 11.09.04 |
eklans wrote: So it's surely Dinera carinifrons / fuscana Thanks a lot, Eric! Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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