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 Lonchaeidae ?
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| Lippo |
Posted on 09-06-2020 13:37
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Member Location: Posts: 257 Joined: 28.08.18 |
SW France yesyerday. In a hosta under a birch. About 4 mm long. How far can we go with this pic: family, sub-family, tribe, further ? I tried to find out with the help of Ian MacGowan'key, but I cannot see the discriminating setaes. The overall appearance and the colors direct me to Lonchaeini, but I feel like I am playing dice.  Daniel Philippe : France : STE LIVRADE SUR LOT : 47110 : 08/06/2020 Altitude : 45 m - Taille : 4 mm estimé Réf. : 259785 |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 09-06-2020 13:56
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7239 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Ian may be able to help on this one, but personally I wouldn't try further than family from a photo.
Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| Lippo |
Posted on 10-06-2020 08:25
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Member Location: Posts: 257 Joined: 28.08.18 |
Thanks Tony, I will wait for Ian's potential comments.  |
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| Iain MacGowan |
Posted on 10-06-2020 10:56
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 Member Location: Perth, Scotland Posts: 448 Joined: 25.11.04 |
Hi Lippo Given the size, robust body and long antennae its definitely Lonchaeini. That leaves us with 2 genera Lonchaea and Silba (= Setisquamalonchaea in the British Handbook) The entirely black legs, large size and perhaps a hint of the orange-yellow calypteral fringe at the base of the wings would make me suspect Silba fumosa which is common in Mediterranean areas hope this helps ......... Iain Iain MacGowan |
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| Lippo |
Posted on 10-06-2020 11:55
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Member Location: Posts: 257 Joined: 28.08.18 |
Wow ! great, many thanks Iain,  |
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