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Sarcophagidae: Sarcophaga s.l.
tamas
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Posted on 21-04-2020 15:58
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Length: 9.6 mm (to wing tips)
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Lateral view:
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Ventral view:
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Zeegers
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No, typical male Sarcophaga s.l. Red genitalia is a clue ( though this is shared by several species).

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tamas
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Thank you Theo,

I thought it cannot be a Sarcophaga because the hind coxae look bare, without the fine hairs that are the key for Sarcophaginae (Povolny-Verves 1997 book).

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Hi Tamas

It is impossible t see these hairs from general habitus pictures.
They are pretty small and moreover, only visible in the proper angle of view.
Agria is more “Muscid-like”: shorter body and different shifting pattern on abdomen. Difficult to describe, but one you have a real Agria, you inmediately see what I mean. Like you see that Brachycoma is not a Sarcophaga.

Agria are generally relatively rare, so you can assume any Sarc to be a Sarcophaga sl., unless ......


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Posted on 22-04-2020 08:47
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Hi Theo,

Thanks for the explanation!
Next time I will close up on the key parts

Tamas
 
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Daniel Whitmore
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Interesting specimen Tamas -- did you preserve it?
Daniel
 
tamas
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Posted on 13-05-2020 12:40
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Hi Daniel,
Sorry I just see your comment.

No, I do not keep specimen. Of course if I only new it was special I would have preserved it.

Tamas
 
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