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Muscidae - Spilogona?
johnes81	#1 Posted on 19-02-2020 13:45
Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1980 Joined: 15.10.16	Berlin - August 2016 Hello everyone, I can't find a genus for this Muscidae species. I think that Spilogona is a match but i have no experience with Spilogona genus. The eyes are slightly haired, the scutum is dark blue and dusted gray. The haltere is yellow. I tried to key it as a Spilogona and i arrive at Spilogona meadei but i think that a species level id is not possible without a specimen. Thus, i am hoping that the genus can be confirmed or that someone can offer a better suggestion. ps i've lightened the photo quite a bit from the original. I simply adjusted the midtone of the photo. I will post a small reminder of the original photo. The species is very dark blue in fact. Best wishes, John johnes81 attached the following image: [185.74Kb] John and Nini. Naturalists not experts.


johnes81	#2 Posted on 19-02-2020 13:46
Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1980 Joined: 15.10.16	original, unlightened, crop to show dark color. johnes81 attached the following image: [23.88Kb] John and Nini. Naturalists not experts.


Nikita Vikhrev	#3 Posted on 19-02-2020 20:44
Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9480 Joined: 24.05.05	John, what about date and place???? Anyway, I'd start to check H. evecta or H. cyrtoneurina Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University


Juergen Peters	#4 Posted on 19-02-2020 21:22
Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14250 Joined: 11.09.04	Nikita Vikhrev wrote: John, what about date and place???? First line of first post. Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


johnes81	#5 Posted on 19-02-2020 22:27
Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1980 Joined: 15.10.16	Hello Nikita and Jürgen, I've thought about Hydrotaea but i don't see a modified fore femur. I don't think that it is a female. Anyway, i have documented Hydrotaea cyrtoneurina: Hydrotaea cyrtoneurina male https://diptera.i...pid=356010 Helina evecta would not look like that even if one fell into dark blue paint. I think that you are just messin' with me. The frons is too wide for a male H. evecta and too narrow for a female - amongst other things. I'll attach a lateral photo next but also a photo of the head of Helina evecta ^^ Best wishes, John johnes81 attached the following image: [22.34Kb] Edited by johnes81 on 19-02-2020 22:27 John and Nini. Naturalists not experts.


johnes81	#6 Posted on 19-02-2020 22:28
Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1980 Joined: 15.10.16	lateral photo. No specimen. Only the dorsal and lateral photos. I suppose that Hydrotaea is a good suggestion. Edited by johnes81 on 07-04-2020 10:33 John and Nini. Naturalists not experts.