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Muscidae - Spilogona?
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Hello everyone,

I can't find a genus for this Muscidae species. I think that Spilogona is a match but i have no experience with Spilogona genus. The eyes are slightly haired, the scutum is dark blue and dusted gray. The haltere is yellow. I tried to key it as a Spilogona and i arrive at Spilogona meadei but i think that a species level id is not possible without a specimen. Thus, i am hoping that the genus can be confirmed or that someone can offer a better suggestion.

ps i've lightened the photo quite a bit from the original. I simply adjusted the midtone of the photo. I will post a small reminder of the original photo. The species is very dark blue in fact.

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original, unlightened, crop to show dark color.
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John, what about date and place????
Anyway, I'd start to check H. evecta or H. cyrtoneurina
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Nikita Vikhrev wrote:
John, what about date and place????


First line of first post. Cool
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Hello Nikita and Jürgen,

I've thought about Hydrotaea but i don't see a modified fore femur. I don't think that it is a female. Anyway, i have documented Hydrotaea cyrtoneurina:

Hydrotaea cyrtoneurina male
https://diptera.i...pid=356010

Helina evecta would not look like that even if one fell into dark blue paint. I think that you are just messin' with me. Smile The frons is too wide for a male H. evecta and too narrow for a female - amongst other things.

I'll attach a lateral photo next but also a photo of the head of Helina evecta ^^

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lateral photo. No specimen. Only the dorsal and lateral photos. I suppose that Hydrotaea is a good suggestion.
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