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Leucostoma anthracinum?
Rui Andrade
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I keyed this female Leucostoma to L. anthracinum. Is it possible to confirm my ID?

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According to the Central European key this would be Leucostoma anthracinum.

The world checklist of Tachinidae shows another European species not in the key, L. aterrimum, which also has a long abdomen. I don't know how to separate them, or if they are the same species.
 
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Thank you John. I also don't have that species in my keys and it is not mentioned in Fauna Europaea. Maybe it's a recent introduction in Europe?
 
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hmm it had already been mentioned in in the 'Catalogue of Palearctic Tachinidae' by Herting under L. simplex.
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The name Leucostoma aterrimum as used in America probably refers to the same species that Europeans call Leucostoma anthracinum. Sorting out the names will require examination of types.
 
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Thank you. I'll leave it as Leucostoma anthracinum. Smile
 
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L. anthracinum IS mentioned as valid species in Herting’s catalogue, and a key is given by Tschorsnig & Herting, of which a (free) translation can be found at Chris Rapers website.

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Zeegers wrote:
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L. anthracinum IS mentioned as valid species in Herting’s catalogue, and a key is given by Tschorsnig & Herting, of which a (free) translation can be found at Chris Rapers website.

Theo


In his revision of American Leucostoma Reinhard (1956) recognized a holarctic species L. aterrimum with elongated female abdomen. North Americans continue to use this name. As far as can be determined from literature, this is the same species that Tschorsnig and Herting call L. anthracinum. Somebody is using the wrong name, but we can't figure out who without a visit to Paris to examine the type of Musca aterrima.

Possibly everybody is using the wrong name, if Old and New World species are different and aterrima is a senior synonym of anthracinum.

Too many flies, not enough taxonomists.
 
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