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Eumerus cf. amoenus, Israel
GlassOWater
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Taken in Jerusalem, about 12 mm in size.

There are two white spots in the abdomen.

Eyes are tight - male?
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Mostly white abdomen.
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Gerard Pennards
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A male in the genus Eumerus, probably not further identifiable!
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What is needed for further identification?
 
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The pinned specimen, preferrably with the genitalia extracted. And some good literature Smile
I'd be interested to try...
 
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I don't collect insects. Smile
 
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Or a picture of the abdominal pattern and a better picture of the fourth sternite, this might do the job, but I can't promise a sure id.

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Without a good look at the genitalia, there is not much somebody can say about the species. But if you want a good guess, from the overall shape, the thin stripes on the thorax head shape etc, I would guesss it is Eumerus amoenus. It is common in Israel, but there are many even undescribed species there...
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Thanks! I don't have better pictures of that one, so we'll have to do with Eumerus cf. amoenus! And on a different note, how come you know about taxonomy in Israel?
 
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GlassOWater wrote:
Thanks! I don't have better pictures of that one, so we'll have to do with Eumerus cf. amoenus! And on a different note, how come you know about taxonomy in Israel?


I collected there many years ago (awesome collecting, many new spcies) and I know several Dipterists from Israel (Amnon Freidberg, Netta Dorchin)...
I just finished a work about Nemotelus of Israel with Amnon (and I was planning to work on some of the Eumerus from there).... So there are many connections...
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Hi GlassOWater
It would really help you to identify flies if you did collect some of them. Can I encourage you to try collecting?
Nigel Jones, Shrewsbury, United Kingdom
 
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Very interesting Martin!

As for Nigel, well, I would like to collect. But right now I don't have the time for it, since I'm starting my military service in less than 3 weeks. So I'm just trying to learn as much as I can without putting too much time into this. Smile
 
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Come on, refuse! Bar Rafaeli is also not going to join....! Pfft
 
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Grin

Because of this it now it is dangerous to mention her name in Israel...

Only five days left Frown
 
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