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| Carnifex |
Posted on 28-01-2019 19:31
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 Member Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 1990 Joined: 23.06.15 |
Hi, this about 2mm long fly was found indoors (probably hatched from a kitchen waste bin). Help with ID appreciated.   Cheers, Lorin Edited by Carnifex on 25-02-2019 11:08 Cheers, Lorin Font Color All requests are from the urban area of Vienna, if not otherwise stated. My Diptera observations (and other living forms) can be found here, and corrections or comments over there would also be appreciated. |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 29-01-2019 11:43
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Drapetis sp.
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| Carnifex |
Posted on 29-01-2019 16:49
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Member Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 1990 Joined: 23.06.15 |
Dear Paul, thanks a lot! With the key from Grootaert et al (2010) I cannot find a definite species, there is always something that doesn't fit. Unfortunately I do not have access to the key by Raffone 2013 - is it possible to get it somewhere? As you commented at another Drapetis-request from me, are you still interested in this genus? I might send you samples. Cheers, Lorin Edited by Carnifex on 29-01-2019 16:50 Cheers, Lorin Font Color All requests are from the urban area of Vienna, if not otherwise stated. My Diptera observations (and other living forms) can be found here, and corrections or comments over there would also be appreciated. |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 30-01-2019 08:57
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Hi Lorin, I missed Gianni's paper on the Tuscan Drapetis but requested a reprint. As to having difficulty identifying your specimen, welcome in the real world.  Drapetis can be quite variable when it comes to colour and using characters like the length of the setae on the antennal segments is not always quite as straightforward as it may seem. Male genital characters are still the best to identify spicies but we are working on getting some reliable satructural characters for the females as well. Patrick Grootaert and I know of at least two undescribed species so any additional material for our studies is welcome (especially males). Mind you, males and females from the same date and locality / sample are not necessarily conspecific. I have had sample from a Malaise trap with at least four, possibly five different species. Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Carnifex |
Posted on 30-01-2019 11:30
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Member Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 1990 Joined: 23.06.15 |
Thanks for the update, Paul. The other one I posted is a 'flavipes'-type so I have at least two species in my kitchen waste :-)
Cheers, Lorin Font Color All requests are from the urban area of Vienna, if not otherwise stated. My Diptera observations (and other living forms) can be found here, and corrections or comments over there would also be appreciated. |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 30-01-2019 14:00
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
From experience I now know that not all yellow legs mean 'flavipes' type in the taxonomical sense but only in the morphological sense.
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