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Posted on 05-08-2018 18:42

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Ujkraine, Rivne region, on June 17.
Is it true that Panorpa vulgaris, male is in the picture?

Can Panorpa vulgaris be a synonym for Panorpa communis?
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Gansucha wrote:
Is it true that Panorpa vulgaris, male is in the picture?


Can Panorpa vulgaris be a synonym for Panorpa communis?

No. You can distinguish the two species (on a photo) by the fact that the basal spot extends over two wing cells in P. vulgaris (see arrows) and only one in P. communis.
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Thank you, I really believed, but there was a controversial situation.
Edited by Gansucha on 05-08-2018 19:05
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Jürgen: I see many errors on the internet. P. vulgaris is often misidentified as P. communis and vice-versa. I am happy that you post correct info about Panorpa. I like Panorpa very much. Well done, Jürgen Smile
John and Nini. Naturalists not experts.
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There is some very good Panorpa info here -

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