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Tephritidae-->Noeeta hemiradiata
Fernando Pires
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Posted on 18-07-2018 08:46

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Good morning,

Last week, while I was on vacation on the South of Portugal, I was able, during a night when I set a light trap for moths, to observe this little Tephritid, which I think might be a Dithryca guttularis.
Can anyone help me confirm its ID?
The picture was taken on a windy night (wind > 20Km/h), about 1 Km away from the sea, in the resort where I was staying near Albufeira, near areas of Mediterranean bush. Precise date was July 9, at 23:06.
Thank in advance for any help.
Kind regards,

Fernando Pires
Fernando Pires attached the following image:

Edited by Fernando Pires on 23-04-2020 17:48
Ben Hamers
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Posted on 18-07-2018 19:59

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Compare with Noeeta in the Diptera Gallery.
I can't tell you which Noeeta it is, in Fauna Europaea Noeeta hemiradiata is mentioned for the Iberian Peninsula, but only for Spain.

Fernando Pires
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Posted on 18-07-2018 21:18

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Thanks Ben. TumbsUp The problem is that the Portuguese fauna is still terribly understated. There are just too few of us searching and taking pictures of little beautiful things like this one. Sad
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Posted on 19-10-2018 21:18
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This indeed looks like Noeeta hemiradiata Dirlbek & Dirlbek, the species I considered phantom (even the types have not been located yet!!!)

Any material collected?
Edited by Nosferatumyia on 28-04-2020 06:01
Fernando Pires
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Posted on 23-04-2020 16:59

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Hello Nosferatumyia,

I'm deeply sorry that I am so late in answering to your comment. I believe that the warnings are getting thrown to my SPAM folder, and this is probably the reason why I didn't see it.
Thank you so much for identifying this little wonder. Unfortunately I did not capture the specimen, but if I see some I'll capture it and keep it in 70%alcohol.
Not a phantom anymore I guess! Grin
Again sorry for the delay.
All the best and stay safe,

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Posted on 24-04-2020 18:07
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Dear Fernando,

I'd appreciate also a more detailed location for my database, perhaps with coordinates (here or in a private message)
Fernando Pires
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Posted on 27-04-2020 20:39

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Dear Val,

Here are the coordinates: 37°04'50.8"N 8°17'08.9"W
Believe it or not, it was in a resort where each apartment had a little yard where I set up the sheet and the light every night. Quite a few surprises, despite the nearby heavy street illumination. I always say: it's always worth a try! And boy, did it pay off.
One curiosity: Is mine the only known picture of a live individual of this species?
Thanks again for the id confirmation, and do let me know if I can help you any further.
I promise that, if in future endeavours I happen to catch one of these beauties, I'll collect it and send it to you.
All the best,

Edited by Fernando Pires on 27-04-2020 20:40
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Posted on 28-04-2020 05:39
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The holotype is not located still. It seems to be returned to a privatecollection, and thus seems to be lost. The original illustration of the wing was good, but this is by far the only locality and the only picture. Please try to find out, which species of Hieracium it is associated and to do a picture of the host plant. I still have a dream to revise this strange genus of one common species and half-dozen very rare and local ones.
Edited by Nosferatumyia on 28-04-2020 06:02
Fernando Pires
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Posted on 05-05-2020 21:54

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Wow, this is really baffling. I will pay attention to see if I'm able to find the plant and the fly on it. I will keep you posted. In the meantime could you tell me how to upload this picture into the gallery, since there isn't any other?
Thanks in advance Val,

Fernando Pires
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Posted on 05-05-2020 23:31

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Already done it Val. I figured it out. I hope an administrator will aprove it.
Paul Beuk
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Posted on 06-05-2020 08:16
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I had already added it, but replaced it with your submission (slightly bigger picture, I think).

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