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Nikita Vikhrev
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Posted on 09-10-2005 21:31
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I hope this flies is not Scathophagas?
May be Sciomyzidae?
1-2 and 3 is of different speciec?
Park in Moscow, about 10mm
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Gerard Pennards
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Picture 1 and 2 are (in my opinion!) a species of Heleomyzidae. Picture 3 is really a Scathophagidae I think. You can see that this last one has a lot more bristles on it's legs than the others!
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At least one important reason why none of these flies are Sciomyzidae is, that these have strong vibrissae, below, between mouth- and eye-edge.
Sciomyzidae never have vibrissae like that.
Nice pictures though... hope Gerard has helped you get to the right direction! :-)
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The first two are Suillia (Heleomyzidae) and the 3rd is a scatophagid, probably Scatophaga.
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Thank you Gerard, Andre and Jere.
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Am I right that this fly with black forelegs is Suillia too, but another sp.?
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Yes, you are right. There is no humeral seta on this heleomyzid and that makes it Suillia.

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And this Scathophaga (3-d fly) identified by Andrey Ozerov as Scathophaga furcata.
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