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 Pipiza noctiluca? --> Pipiza cf. austriaca
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| Reimund Ley |
Posted on 01-12-2017 14:00
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Member Location: Deutschland, Recklinghausen Posts: 821 Joined: 25.04.14 |
ist the identifikation of this fly correct? It was about 6-8mm, found in Germany, Marl, altitude 55m, 4. 9. 2017 greetings Angelika/Reimund Reimund Ley attached the following image:  [75.4Kb] Edited by Reimund Ley on 05-01-2018 20:11 |
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| Reimund Ley |
Posted on 01-12-2017 14:01
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Member Location: Deutschland, Recklinghausen Posts: 821 Joined: 25.04.14 |
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| Reimund Ley |
Posted on 01-12-2017 14:03
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Member Location: Deutschland, Recklinghausen Posts: 821 Joined: 25.04.14 |
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| Reimund Ley |
Posted on 21-12-2017 19:38
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Member Location: Deutschland, Recklinghausen Posts: 821 Joined: 25.04.14 |
any ideas, please greetings Angelika/Reimund |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 01-01-2018 19:29
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 Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3890 Joined: 28.07.07 |
The frons seems less inflated, so most probably a male Pipiza and not a Heringia. That does not help much, as the genus is regarded as one of the most intractable because of the high variability of the species. It MIGHT be P. austriaca IF there are ridges on the underside of the hind femora (impossible to see in the pics). So I do not dare to say more than Pipiza spec. Happy New Year and best wishes, Sundew |
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| Reimund Ley |
Posted on 01-01-2018 19:39
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Member Location: Deutschland, Recklinghausen Posts: 821 Joined: 25.04.14 |
hello Sundew, thanks for your answer, if we meet this fly again we try to get fotos of the hind femora for a propper ID, we called the fly Pipiza sp. also a happy new year to Berlin Angelika/Reimund |
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| Robert Zoralski |
Posted on 01-01-2018 19:41
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Member Location: Gdansk, Poland Posts: 173 Joined: 20.08.06 |
Pipiza austriaca most probably. |
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| Reimund Ley |
Posted on 02-01-2018 19:50
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Member Location: Deutschland, Recklinghausen Posts: 821 Joined: 25.04.14 |
hello Robert, thanks a lot for your answer, you mean we can call this fly Pipiza cf. austriaca? greetings and a happy new year Angelika/Reimund |
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| Robert Zoralski |
Posted on 05-01-2018 07:33
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Member Location: Gdansk, Poland Posts: 173 Joined: 20.08.06 |
Probably most of Pipiza's determined from pictures should have "cf."  And also 1/10 of determined directry from specimens...  That's a genus of extremely high intraspecific variability with also some characters overlapping between species and, as you could imagine, in consequence in a very bad condition taxonomically...  When seeing hundreds of Pipiza's every year, I have consistent feeling that current concept is worse than it was 100 years ago. Problem is complex. Not sure anyone can solve this puzzles nowadays on the Palearctic level due to specific of this genus. R. Edited by Robert Zoralski on 05-01-2018 07:34 |
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| Reimund Ley |
Posted on 05-01-2018 20:10
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Member Location: Deutschland, Recklinghausen Posts: 821 Joined: 25.04.14 |
hello Robert, thanks for your answer to indentify this fly, we put this sweety with the name Pipiza cf. austriaca in our homepage. best wishes Angelika/Reimund |
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