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Chloropidae 2 August 2016 SW Sweden -> Chlorops sp.
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 This Chloropidae was found in a meadow east of Gothenburg. I tried to identify it with Fauna Entomologica Scandinavica and then I came to Thaumatomyia.

Costal vein does not reach beyond R4+5 -> Chloropinae
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 Orbital bristles all about the same size.
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 Hind legs without enlarged femora
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 Head rounded in side view
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 r-m and dm-cu not approximated
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 I think there are bristles within side margins of ocellar triangle and then it should be Thaumatomyia.
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 However, it doesn't seem to have a flattened scutellum.
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 Impossible even to genus level?
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 I am sure that fly can be identified by our expert Michael von Tschirnhaus; unfortunately he visits the forum only seldom. You should write him a Private Message, he will help.
 
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 Thanks! I will contact Michael.
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 looks like a grass fly to me.
Family Chloropidae (Frit Flies)
Subfamily Chloropinae (Grass Flies)
Genus Chlorops

hope this helps. I am not an expert.
 
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 Chlorops spec. (Thaumatomyia has approximated apical scutellar setae)
 
http://www.uni-bielefeld.de/biologie/sammlung/inde
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 Many thanks for your help!
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