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| Pentti Ketola |
Posted on 08-08-2016 11:49
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Hi, Is it possible to tell the species of the male? Photo 8 Aug. 2016 in Kokkola Finland. Pentti Pentti Ketola attached the following image:  [76.45Kb] Edited by Pentti Ketola on 08-08-2016 20:52 |
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| Pentti Ketola |
Posted on 08-08-2016 11:50
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Posted on 08-08-2016 11:50
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| John Carr |
Posted on 08-08-2016 13:05
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Anthomyiidae. Without consulting literature, I notice the long hairs on sternite 3 as a character of some Delia. See if you have another similarly ornamented male in your collection. |
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| Pentti Ketola |
Posted on 08-08-2016 13:19
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Thank you! Pentti. |
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| Pentti Ketola |
Posted on 08-08-2016 14:28
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 08-08-2016 15:23
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Do you have this specimen really in collection, or… do you just anesthetize these flies before photographing them and in the meanwhile you try to pull out the genitals a little ?? Johanna |
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| Pentti Ketola |
Posted on 08-08-2016 16:59
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some failed… Pentti. Pentti Ketola attached the following image:  [103.31Kb] |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 08-08-2016 18:26
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The cercal plate seems a bit long but looking at the shape and erect setae on III sternite and distiphallus, this could be Delia lophota.... Is it possible to check if mid tarsomere 2 has a ventral swelling (or can you make a photo of the tarsomeres of the midleg from behind) Johanna Edited by javanerkelens on 08-08-2016 18:27 |
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| Pentti Ketola |
Posted on 08-08-2016 19:14
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javanerkelens wrote: (or can you make a photo of the tarsomeres of the midleg from behind) Johanna OK. Pentti Ketola attached the following image:  [60.9Kb] |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 08-08-2016 20:34
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The swelling on tarsomere 2 seems present. Even under the microscope it is sometimes difficult to see, but on the left photo we can see a small swelling at the beginning. On the right photo it seems less visible,..more straight it seems. So…Delia lophota seems right. Nice work Pentti! Johanna javanerkelens attached the following image:  [28.87Kb] Edited by javanerkelens on 08-08-2016 20:35 |
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| Pentti Ketola |
Posted on 08-08-2016 20:51
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Thanks a lot! Regards Pentti. |
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but don't see the image in the post.
