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Lauxaniidae from Romania
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cosmln |
Posted on 07-05-2007 11:16
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
hi! found two days ago this fly in a forest close to Timisoara, Bistra Forest. a forest mainly from Quercus, remains from old forest (there are some very old Quercus 2-3 hundred years). so... this fly was found on Polygonatum leaves (a lot of them found there). small, 3mm withput wings. maybe an ID is possible, cosmln EDIT: title changed cosmln attached the following image: [79.03Kb] Edited by cosmln on 07-05-2007 13:19 |
cosmln |
Posted on 07-05-2007 11:17
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
second and last view
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Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 07-05-2007 13:07
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9350 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Lauxaniidae
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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cosmln |
Posted on 07-05-2007 13:22
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
Nikita Vikhrev wrote: Lauxaniidae thanks Nikita, i was thinking to that but not something to match in the gallery. cosmln |
cosmln |
Posted on 19-05-2007 23:34
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
this can be Sapromyza? (this looking to one of the new thread http://www.dipter...ad_id=6326 ) cosmln |
Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 20-05-2007 08:08
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9350 Joined: 24.05.05 |
No Cosmin ("Cosmin" is correct?), it isn't Sapromyza. Yuor fly has presutural dc, so, most probably, it is Meiosimyza. Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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wilde |
Posted on 20-05-2007 08:45
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Member Location: Koudekerke, Netherlands Posts: 176 Joined: 13.09.06 |
Is this the same fly? What do you mean by presutural dc? Where on a fly can I see this?
wilde attached the following image: [140.06Kb] Albert de Wilde |
Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 20-05-2007 12:22
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9350 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Yes, Albert, same genus. For morpholgy, see, for example: http://www.nadsdiptera.org/Tach/Morpho/tachmor.htm Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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wilde |
Posted on 20-05-2007 13:06
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Member Location: Koudekerke, Netherlands Posts: 176 Joined: 13.09.06 |
OK, I looked at your link but the word presutural is not explained. However, it is used some times, but I cannot imagine what it is: a pitty for that site that tries to explain these things and a pitty that you were not willing to explain it to me!
Edited by wilde on 20-05-2007 16:37 Albert de Wilde |
Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 20-05-2007 16:08
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9350 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Voila, presut dc. But anyway, Albert, you have to reed morphology yourself too. It isn't the most interesting thing to reed, but without it you can't use a key and as a result you can't ID fly. Nikita Vikhrev attached the following image: [49.41Kb] Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 20-05-2007 16:09
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9350 Joined: 24.05.05 |
I also have image of Calyptrate fly. In this case thorastic suture is better visible
Nikita Vikhrev attached the following image: [82.25Kb] Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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