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 1_Muscidae_ID? (Alliopsis sylvestris(female)
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| Mucha Fero |
Posted on 02-05-2014 07:52
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Please identify Muscidae flies. Slovak Republic, Malá Fatra, approximately altitude cca 1100 m a. s. l. Thank you very much for your help. Best regards! Fote date: 01.05. 2014.
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| Mucha Fero |
Posted on 02-05-2014 07:52
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| Mucha Fero |
Posted on 02-05-2014 07:53
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| Mucha Fero |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 02-05-2014 13:04
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Anthomyiidae. Alliopsis sylvestris species group female, but not sylvestris which has less widely separated eyes. |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 02-05-2014 18:44
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If the interfrontals are plased just below the ocelli ( I just can't see them on these photos, but it seems so) and with the fore tars on tibia 1 enlarged.....this could be Alliopsis denticauda. I need a sharp photo from the head (front)...! Johanna (not recorded for the Czech Republic) Edited by javanerkelens on 02-05-2014 18:46 |
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| Mucha Fero |
Posted on 02-05-2014 22:10
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John, Johanna thank you very much.
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 02-05-2014 22:26
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Please.....Try to read my answer properly (or translate my tekst with a program on the internet) and take not just an answer for granted. I have asked for an enlargement of the head, before I can be sure of my answer !!! Johanna |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 02-05-2014 22:28
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javanerkelens wrote: If the interfrontals are plased just below the ocelli ( I just can't see them on these photos, but it seems so) and with the fore tars on tibia 1 enlarged.....this could be Alliopsis denticauda. I need a sharp photo from the head (front)...! Johanna (not recorded for the Czech Republic) According to Griffiths denticauda is a gray species with tarsomeres 2-5 of uniform width. This belongs in his sylvestris superspecies with only tarsomeres 2-3 enlarged. |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 02-05-2014 22:36
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That is why I had my doubts...!! I only have Hennig and Ackland for Alliopsis and not Griffiths to consult. In Hennig only A. denticauda was mentioned with the enlarged tarsomeres, that is why I thought it could be A. denticauda. So John, thank you for the information, and I am saving the money to buy more parts of Griffiths (or lend it from the library)! Alliopsis sylvestris species group it is..! Johanna Edited by javanerkelens on 02-05-2014 22:39 |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 02-05-2014 22:55
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Griffiths includes six species known from the Palaearctic: A. silvestris. Eyes separated "by slightly more than width of ocellar tubercle", pulvilli of fore legs almost as long as fifth tarsomere. A. teriolensis including borealis. Eyes more widely separated, at least in some populations. A. lutebasicosta (Fan) A. silvatica (Suwa) A. maculifrons (Zetterstedt) A. billbergi (Zetterstedt) By range this should be teriolensis ("from Tyrol", I presume). Griffiths' only female specimen was from Scandinavia, and the Alps population may differ. If you don't have Hennig's description I can copy Griffiths'. |
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| Mucha Fero |
Posted on 03-05-2014 05:10
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John, Johanna thank you very much. |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 03-05-2014 22:57
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
John....I will send you tomorrow a PM ! Johanna |
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