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Dark hairy Asilidae > Andrenosoma bayardi ?
Manuel Lopez
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Posted on 15-05-2013 16:12
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Taken this morning near Granada, 1400 meters. Thanks for your help.

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Andrenosoma sp. Possibly atrum, but I'm not sure, if any other species besides atrum and albibarbe occur in Spain.
 
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In Spain are described atrum an albibarbe only, so would be correct Andrenosoma cf. atrum or A. atrum for you?

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Therefore would be A. atrum.
 
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There is some red glimmering through i think : ) but more importantly the first posterior cell R5 is open it should be closed in atra (atrum). So that would make it A. albibarbe, but please add a cf for it could well be a Spanish endemic.
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Hm, I think the Cell R5 contact the border of the wing. It's not good to see. Zooming the picture and this detail is better to see. The taxonomic review of the spanish species of Andrenosoma terms this form 'Andrenosoma bayardi'. I am not sure, but the review says, this species could be A.bayardi. :-/

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Hi Markus. It really matches. Thanks !!
Edited by Manuel Lopez on 28-05-2018 06:30
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