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Cranefly > Euphylidorea dispar
Tjitske Lubach
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Posted on 02-05-2013 11:58
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Yesterday, 01-05-2013, I saw many of these normal sized Craneflies in wet grasslands in La Fontoure, Saint Gilles, Indre, France. They are mostly orange, wings with dark veins and a black pterostigma. I have searched for hours, but I can't find a lookalike.

I am not sure if it is a Tipulidae. It might also be something else, maybe a Limoniidae? Can anyone help me???

Thanks in advance, Tjitske Lubach

http://observado....w/75650610

Female

Foto's:

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observado.org/fotonew/7/4675417.jpg

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observado.org/fotonew/9/4675419.jpg

Male

http://observado....w/75650606

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observado.org/fotonew/3/4675393.jpg

observado.org/fotonew/6/4675396.jpg

observado.org/fotonew/7/4675397.jpg

observado.org/fotonew/1/4675411.jpg
Edited by Tjitske Lubach on 08-05-2013 10:24
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John Carr
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Austrolimnophila ochracea? Please add to gallery if confirmed because there are no adults of this genus.
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/31715949@N00
Tjitske Lubach
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Thank you very much John. So it is a Limoniidae after all. There are little photo's of the species on the internet. I hope someone can confirm it. And if the pictures are good enough I will of course upload them to this site. Smile
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clovis
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I don't know, something bother me with the habitus.
What about Phylidorea/Euphylidorea?
No certitude Frown
 
Tjitske Lubach
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Thank you very much clovis. That lookes also promissing. But I don't know much about these flies, so I couldn't tell. I am depending on experts on this forum! So I hope someone can confirm it...
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Tjitske Lubach
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Posted on 03-05-2013 22:03
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Yesterday I took some pictures of the same species of craneflies in copula. It may give some extra information?

observado.org/fotonew/7/4680407.jpg

observado.org/fotonew/9/4680409.jpg
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John Carr
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Is vein MA present near the base of the wing? That vein is present in Limnophila s. lat. but not Austrolimnophila.
 
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pjotr oosterbroek
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Posted on 04-05-2013 12:42
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Identification with Stubbs, 1997c (PDF in http://nlbif.eti.uva.nl/ccw/) leads to Euphylidorea dispar, a species widespread in Europe.
I am almost sure this is correct.
Pjotr Oosterbroek
 
http://ip30.eti.uva.nl/ccw/
Tjitske Lubach
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Posted on 08-05-2013 10:22
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The species is confirmed as Euphylidorea dispar, thanks to Pjotr Oosterbroek who has identified and Jaroslav Stary who has confirmed it.

Thanks to you all.
Tjitske Lubach
 
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