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| Chris Lewis |
Posted on 21-02-2007 09:57
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 Member Location: Essex, England Posts: 85 Joined: 03.08.06 |
Foulness Essex Farmyard copse 7mm from head to tip of abdomen Have I got the family right - can anyone identify it further 3 images Chris Lewis attached the following image:  [141.14Kb] |
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| Chris Lewis |
Posted on 21-02-2007 09:58
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Member Location: Essex, England Posts: 85 Joined: 03.08.06 |
2nd image
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| Chris Lewis |
Posted on 21-02-2007 09:58
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Member Location: Essex, England Posts: 85 Joined: 03.08.06 |
3rd image
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| Xespok |
Posted on 21-02-2007 10:28
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 Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
yes, it is a limoniid crane fly, but I can not help you further. My GUESS is that you should look near the Limonia genus.
Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 21-02-2007 10:34
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19244 Joined: 11.05.04 |
And if I were you I try to compare with Trichocera hiemalis of the trichoceridae. 
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| Xespok |
Posted on 21-02-2007 12:30
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Here I must disagree with Paul, I think this is Limoniidae. 1. The antennae are too short and too thick for Trichoceridae. 2. I think the wing venation does not fit Trichoceridae. 3. The wing is weakly spotted, that is frequently seen in Limonia sp, but rarely or not in Trichoceridae. The T. hiemalis to my knowledge should show no spotting. I think this image shows Trichocera hiemalis. Your image shows a very similar animal, but the proportions are sligtly different. The jizz of some Trichoceridae are very similar to the jizz of some Limoniidae. Of course I am not an expert, so I may well be wrong. Edited by Xespok on 21-02-2007 12:55 Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Chris Lewis |
Posted on 21-02-2007 19:43
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Member Location: Essex, England Posts: 85 Joined: 03.08.06 |
Thank-you all for your contributions. I attach a further image of what I have identified as Trichocera hiemalis from my collection. Note the short curved V7 not seen on the Limoniid and the position of the posterior cross-vein in relation to the discal cell - level with the outer end in Trichocera and just proximal to the inner end in the Limoniid. I can also confirm that under the microscope the Trichocera has ocelli, while the postulated Limoniid does not. Any further discussion would be most welcome. Chris Lewis attached the following image:  [141.3Kb] |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 21-02-2007 20:06
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19244 Joined: 11.05.04 |
I admit defeat, LoL.
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| David Gibbs |
Posted on 21-02-2007 20:11
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 Member Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 833 Joined: 17.06.06 |
that wavy anal vein suggests Symplecta to me. |
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 08-02-2010 19:23
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 Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3303 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Yes I think it's Symplecta (Psiloconopa) stictica. |
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| Nexima |
Posted on 04-03-2010 08:55
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Member Location: Turkey, Mugla Posts: 27 Joined: 03.02.10 |
Symplecta (Psiloconopa) stictica as for me, too |
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