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 Hairy tachinids
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| Jussi Koistinen |
Posted on 29-04-2011 15:44
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Member Location: Finland Posts: 21 Joined: 19.02.11 |
Hejpodej, found my first tachinids ever 28.4.2011. Pretty different in size and looks but I have a feeling if they both could still be Lypha dubia? At least time would be fitting. Espoo, southern Finland. Jussi Koistinen attached the following image:  [83.8Kb] Edited by Jussi Koistinen on 29-04-2011 15:45 |
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| Jussi Koistinen |
Posted on 29-04-2011 15:47
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Member Location: Finland Posts: 21 Joined: 19.02.11 |
Here is the another one.
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| JariF |
Posted on 29-04-2011 16:35
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
Jussi, just one species in one thread. Abouth the species ... Chris or Theo will tell You more  |
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| Jussi Koistinen |
Posted on 29-04-2011 17:13
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Member Location: Finland Posts: 21 Joined: 19.02.11 |
OK, just had the feeling they would be the same species. I will be more careful in the future.
Edited by Jussi Koistinen on 29-04-2011 17:14 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 29-04-2011 18:44
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18542 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Doesn't look like Lypha COuld we get dorsal shots, please ? Theo |
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| neprisikiski |
Posted on 29-04-2011 19:02
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Member Location: Lithuania Posts: 876 Joined: 23.02.09 |
First one reminds me Phorocera obscura, and the second one Bothria subalpina, both females.
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| Jussi Koistinen |
Posted on 29-04-2011 19:43
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Member Location: Finland Posts: 21 Joined: 19.02.11 |
They really look different but as I found them together (not copula though) I thought it might have been sexual diphormism. Too hasty. Here are some poor dorsal shots(DOF problems) but I hope they might help. Thank you for your opinions already. In the same order Jussi Koistinen attached the following image:  [85.98Kb] |
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| Jussi Koistinen |
Posted on 29-04-2011 19:44
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Member Location: Finland Posts: 21 Joined: 19.02.11 |
And the other...
Jussi Koistinen attached the following image:  [68.68Kb] Edited by Jussi Koistinen on 29-04-2011 19:45 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 30-04-2011 08:38
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18542 Joined: 21.07.04 |
I'm with Erikas Theo |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 30-04-2011 08:42
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 Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Phorocera always fool me but the Bothria subalpina looks very familiar
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Jussi Koistinen |
Posted on 30-04-2011 09:04
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Member Location: Finland Posts: 21 Joined: 19.02.11 |
Really nice to get names for these, thank you! Yep, afterwards that Bothria seems to have some pretty revealing features(colourisation of different parts). I`ll try to spend more time finding fitting species next time. Jussi |
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| Jaakko |
Posted on 01-05-2011 22:20
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 Member Location: Joensuu, Finland Posts: 479 Joined: 04.08.08 |
Hi, Are you guys sure about the first? The habitus does not fit to my impression of Phorocera (no shadow fold on m-vein, abdomen not domed enough for a female etc..) and importantly for obscura the depression on the tergite 2 reaches the margin! There are not that many possibilities, a closeup on the head would be great. Jussi: No stress, tachinids are not trivial to id and some species do have quite outstanding sexual dimorphism. Just keep posting, nice to see stuff from Finland. Edited by Jaakko on 01-05-2011 22:22 |
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| Jaakko |
Posted on 04-05-2011 15:49
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Member Location: Joensuu, Finland Posts: 479 Joined: 04.08.08 |
After chatting with Jussi, Cyzenis albicans/jucunda is a likely candidate for the first one. Maybe albicans as the dusting on the tergites is not so well defined.
Edited by Jaakko on 04-05-2011 15:49 |
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but don't see the image in the post.