Gallery Links
Users Online
· Guests Online: 40

· Members Online: 0

· Total Members: 5,084
· Newest Member: Mahesh
Forum Threads
Theme Switcher
Switch to:
Last Seen Users
· Auratus00:07:34
· BLecaplain00:09:10
· piros00:46:16
· ViktorNebenf...00:47:35
· John Carr01:20:23
· Jan Maca01:24:34
· Tony Irwin02:17:21
· JWV02:31:42
· Reimund Ley02:34:36
· Nosferatumyia03:18:36
Latest Photo Additions
View Thread
Diptera.info :: Miscellaneous :: General queries
 Print Thread
Tachinidae parasites of of the pentatomid bug Picromerus bidens ?
Dmitry_Musolin
#1 Print Post
Posted on 12-04-2011 12:50
Member

Location:
Posts: 6
Joined: 12.04.11

Dear colleagues,

I would appreciate any information (records, species names, references) concerning Tachinidae (Phasiinae) parasites of ADULTS (or nymphs + adults) of the pentatomid bug Picromerus bidens (Heteroptera: Pentatomidae) within its Palaearctic range: What species can be parasites of adults of this bug?

Thank you very much in advance!

All the best,

Dmitry.

Dmitry Musolin, PhD, musolin@gmail.com,
Senior Research Fellow, Department of Entomology
Faculty of Biology and Soil Sciences, St. Petersburg State University
Universitetskaya nab., 7/9, St. Petersburg, 199034, RUSSIA
In English: www.ndsu.nodak.edu/ndsu/rider/Pentatomoidea/Researchers/Musolin_Dmitry.htm
"Seasonal Development of Aquatic and Semiaquatic True Bugs (Heteroptera)"
www.unipress.ru/2007/sau.html; available at: http://www.pemberleybooks.com/
 
ChrisR
#2 Print Post
Posted on 12-04-2011 12:59
User Avatar

Super Administrator

Location: Reading, England
Posts: 7706
Joined: 12.07.04

Matt Smith & I have checked out UK records and can't find anything for that species of host - sorry Sad

Have you reared out many phasiines from bugs already?
Edited by ChrisR on 12-04-2011 13:00
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London.
 
http://tachinidae.org.uk
Dmitry_Musolin
#3 Print Post
Posted on 12-04-2011 13:14
Member

Location:
Posts: 6
Joined: 12.04.11

Thank you for the reply.

No, we have not yet. But there is a story behind this. Picromerus bidens has an egg diapause (a rare case in Pentatomidae bugs). However, there are some records of Picromerus adults in spring or early summer, although they should be in the field not earlier than in June-July. It was suggested that adults might be parasitized by phasiines, who castrate adults (OMG!). These poor adults do not reproduce, but survive (or try to) winter instead of reproduction and peaceful death in autumn.

So, to clarify this (what do adults do in spring?), we want to try to find parasitized adults in the field, and\or parasitize adults from the culture and see whether they reproduce or survive winter...

I have a couple of papers on Picromerus bidens cycle and diapause and will be happy to share. I would definitely appreciate any thoughts and advises.

D.
 
ChrisR
#4 Print Post
Posted on 12-04-2011 13:23
User Avatar

Super Administrator

Location: Reading, England
Posts: 7706
Joined: 12.07.04

Thanks for the summary Dimitry ... very interesting ... there is so much to be learned about tachinid/host relationships. Are you in contact with Evgeniy Aksenenko (entoma@mail.ru) in the Voronezh region? He has been rearing phasiines and might have some data for you. Smile
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London.
 
http://tachinidae.org.uk
Dmitry_Musolin
#5 Print Post
Posted on 12-04-2011 13:32
Member

Location:
Posts: 6
Joined: 12.04.11

Smile)) This is our common project -- we are working on the bug side, he - on the fly side! Wink

Thanks!

Maybe other members have something to add too!
 
Jaakko
#6 Print Post
Posted on 12-04-2011 13:36
User Avatar

Member

Location: Joensuu, Finland
Posts: 479
Joined: 04.08.08

Hi,

Rieger & Tschorsnig list Hemyda obscuripennis (Tachinidae) as a parasitoid of Picromerus bidens in Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany.

Ref:
Neue Wirtsbefunde von Raupenfliegen (Diptera: Tachinidae) aus Wanzen (Heteroptera: Pentatomidae und Rhopalidae). Mitteilungen Entomologischer Verein Stuttgart Volume: 36 Issue: 1 Pages: 22 Published: 30 Mai 2001

Sorry, I don´t have this paper... Just checked it with ISI web of knowledge.
 
Jaakko
#7 Print Post
Posted on 12-04-2011 13:38
User Avatar

Member

Location: Joensuu, Finland
Posts: 479
Joined: 04.08.08

Btw: Castration of the host is pretty common feature in Phasiinae! Lots of papers about it.
 
Dmitry_Musolin
#8 Print Post
Posted on 12-04-2011 13:41
Member

Location:
Posts: 6
Joined: 12.04.11

Dear Jaakko,

Thank you very much! Appreciated!
 
ChrisR
#9 Print Post
Posted on 12-04-2011 13:44
User Avatar

Super Administrator

Location: Reading, England
Posts: 7706
Joined: 12.07.04

I would have thought that it was standard-practice to eat the host's genitalia first ... they are the least vital organs in the body for survival Smile If it prolongs the life of the host over winter then it might also help diapause too.
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London.
 
http://tachinidae.org.uk
Dmitry_Musolin
#10 Print Post
Posted on 12-04-2011 13:45
Member

Location:
Posts: 6
Joined: 12.04.11

Jaakko wrote:
Btw: Castration of the host is pretty common feature in Phasiinae! Lots of papers about it.


Yes, but in this case it is supposed that this castration 'changes' the life cycle -- it forces adults to overwinter.

In general, is it known that such castration increase chances of winter survival in other bugs/insects?
 
Dmitry_Musolin
#11 Print Post
Posted on 12-04-2011 13:51
Member

Location:
Posts: 6
Joined: 12.04.11

ChrisR wrote:
I would have thought that it was standard-practice to eat the host's genitalia first ... they are the least vital organs in the body for survival Smile If it prolongs the life of the host over winter then it might also help diapause too.


I do not practice this standard-practice, but it sounds reasonable for me Smile

I would like to see proofs/records .... "If it prolongs the life of the host over winter" --- this is THE question for us! Smile
 
Jump to Forum:
Similar Threads
Thread Forum Replies Last Post
Tachinidae Diptera (adults) 5 22-02-2026 09:26
Tachinidae Hyperaea femoralis ? Diptera (adults) 6 13-02-2026 13:21
Tachinidae ID Diptera (adults) 11 09-02-2026 15:46
Tachinidae Diptera (adults) 4 08-02-2026 21:10
Tachinidae ID => Athrycia ?curvinervis Diptera (adults) 5 04-02-2026 05:42
Date and time
24 February 2026 15:44
Login
Username

Password



Not a member yet?
Click here to register.

Forgotten your password?
Request a new one here.
Temporary email?
Due to fact this site has functionality making use of your email address, any registration using a temporary email address will be rejected.

Paul
Donate
Please, help to make
Diptera.info
possible and enable
further improvements!
Latest Articles
Syrph the Net
Those who want to have access to the Syrph the Net database need to sign the
License Agreement -
Click to Download


Public files of Syrph the Net can be downloaded HERE

Last updated: 25.08.2011
Shoutbox
You must login to post a message.

20.02.26 13:31
Canada plans to eliminate the Diptera group at the CNC. See post in the News section of the main page.

18.02.26 09:33
Anyone have scans of the Genus Semaranga in: 1)Kanmiya, K. (1983) A systematic study of the Japanese Chloropidae (Diptera). 2) Andersson, H. (1977 Taxonomic and Phylogenetic studies on Chloropid

10.02.26 19:36
Hello Moumoule !

07.01.26 15:52
Pipunculidae from Mongolia! I am looking for specialist who is committed to ID these. There will be a lot of material coming from my expeditions.

06.12.25 21:37
He last posted here in April, identifying some Chloropidae.

04.12.25 20:02
Dr Michael von Tschirnhaus, a leading expert on Chloropidae and Agromyzidae, died on 16 September 2025 at the age of 86. He will be greatly missed by the international community. R.I.P.

03.12.25 12:46
Anyone has the scan of "Harkness, R. D.; Ismay, J. W. 1976: A new species of Trachysiphonella (Dipt., Chloropidae) from Greece, associated with an ant Cataglyphis bicolor (F.) (Hym., Formicidae)

01.12.25 22:29
I will try to fix the messages this month. We have to make some other configuration changes before software goes out of support at end of year.

29.11.25 21:57
I would prefer not to receive any more messages from diptera.info signed by Paul... (Thread reply notification)... Could they be signed by ‘The diptera.info team’?

19.11.25 12:31
It is with deepest sadness in my heart that I announce that on Saturday, November 15, one of the great minds of world dipterology, prof. Rudolf Rozkošny, left us forever. Please remember him with a

Render time: 1.58 seconds | 261,171,559 unique visits