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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 30-09-2006 19:30
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Turkey, Side, 28 sept. Using Zimin's key species level ID is impossible. But it seems to me that here there are experts which know the way. If so, please, explain me how. Nikita Vikhrev attached the following image:  [63.24Kb] Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 30-09-2006 21:14
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7193 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Hi Nikita - Nice shot! It's a Musca, but not a species I know . It could be sorbens, but your nice shot doesn't show any of the key characters!  Amazingly there are no images of sorbens available on the net (according to Google) - despite it being one of the most important disease vectors in the world! Another good reason to support Diptera.info! 
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 30-09-2006 21:30
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9225 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Thank you Tony. Could it be Musca larvipara? Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 30-09-2006 22:11
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Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7193 Joined: 19.11.04 |
I did consider that but Zimin suggests that autumnalis and larvipara are very similar (apart from the suprasquamal and genal hairs). Your specimen and autumnalis have very different thoracic markings, which I would have though he would have mentioned - but I might be wrong!  
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 01-10-2006 11:06
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9225 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Tony, I collected several more flies (to broke out wing and find suprasquamal hairs). My result is: sternite 1 with hairs (so, not M. sorbens), only hind suprasquamal hairs (I'm not sure), front very narrow - M. domestica vicina. May be? Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 01-10-2006 15:14
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Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7193 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Nikita - Check the propleural depression (just in front of the anterior spiracle) for short black hairs - if it is bare, it is not domestica.
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 28-09-2007 20:50
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9225 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Again in Side. Last year I regarded 2-nd sternite as 1-st. Really 1-st is bare. It seems it is really M.sorbens Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 02-10-2007 19:53
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Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7193 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Excellent! This is a really important photo - as I said before - no other photos of sorbens available on the net!
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 02-10-2007 20:03
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9225 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Collect several flies for you, Tony?
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 02-10-2007 20:15
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Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7193 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Thanks, Nikita!!
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 12-10-2007 20:50
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9225 Joined: 24.05.05 |
An addition about life of M.sorbens: M.sorbens as a prey of Oxybelus quatuordecimnotatus. Nikita Vikhrev attached the following image:  [110.32Kb] Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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but don't see the image in the post.