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| philporter |
Posted on 17-11-2010 11:40
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Member Location: Lincoln UK Posts: 554 Joined: 07.02.07 |
A very long-beaked empid. Sorry, don't know what to try to highlight especially. Can anyone help? Phil Porter philporter attached the following image:  [79.16Kb] |
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| philporter |
Posted on 17-11-2010 11:40
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Member Location: Lincoln UK Posts: 554 Joined: 07.02.07 |
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| oxycera |
Posted on 17-11-2010 17:23
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Member Location: Barnsley, South Yorkshire Posts: 251 Joined: 31.12.09 |
Empis (sens.lat.) but unless you're an empid specialist with an 'instant recognition' factor, a bit difficult to progress I would have thought with the lack of useful detail. Interesting Thereva, by the way. |
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| philporter |
Posted on 17-11-2010 21:42
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Member Location: Lincoln UK Posts: 554 Joined: 07.02.07 |
Every little helps John, but I haven't got a key for Empidae at the moment Phil |
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| oxycera |
Posted on 17-11-2010 22:05
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Member Location: Barnsley, South Yorkshire Posts: 251 Joined: 31.12.09 |
Collin's book is a brilliant piece of work; recommended if you get the chance to acquire it (not sure how easy that may be these days). |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 17-11-2010 22:42
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Member Location: Zoelmond, the Netherlands Posts: 1984 Joined: 01.11.06 |
I think (!) it is Empis livida, but, as said above, not enough details. I like Collin's book a lot, but it is of course a bit old. I guess it is still possible to purchase it, perhaps second hand, but if you need a good key for Empis, rather buy Chvala's key in the Fauna Entomololica Scandinavica. ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 17-11-2010 22:43
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Member Location: Zoelmond, the Netherlands Posts: 1984 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Phil, do the M1 and M2 from the discall cell reach the margin of the wing?
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| philporter |
Posted on 18-11-2010 11:11
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Member Location: Lincoln UK Posts: 554 Joined: 07.02.07 |
Ruud, No, they both stop short of the margin. Compared to a specimen which Paul Beuk identified as livida on the site a while ago, this has mouthparts a full 60% longer, measured with an engraved lens. John I'll certainly look into finding Collins book. Re. all these references; 'so many books, so little time and money'. I only have about ten specimens and most probably some duplicates among them, so I'm in for all of the outside help I can get! Regards Phil |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 18-11-2010 11:26
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19240 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Mouth parts consist of soft and hard parts. The soft parts can be extended and can result in a proboscis that appears to be twice as long as one that is not extended. This is Empis livida.
Edited by Paul Beuk on 18-11-2010 19:59 Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| philporter |
Posted on 18-11-2010 17:44
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Member Location: Lincoln UK Posts: 554 Joined: 07.02.07 |
Extraordinary; thank you all. Phil Porter |
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but don't see the image in the post.
