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mating flies - not < 18 years -
Robert Heemskerk
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hello flyforum,

These redish big-eyed flies enjoyed the nice wheather of this week in september.
Must be a attempt for a last generation this year..
place: Amsterdam Forest

What kind of flies are these?

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Pipunculus (Pipunculidae)
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Thank you for your comment Kahis!

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Kahis, are the setae on the mesonotum not too short for Pipunculus? I thought they might be Tomosvaryella...
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certainly Pipunculus, very likley Pipunculus campestris Latreille, 1802
 
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Paul Beuk wrote:
Kahis, are the setae on the mesonotum not too short for Pipunculus? I thought they might be Tomosvaryella...


Definitely not Smile Not too short that is, and also definitely not Tomosvaryella as that genus has crossvein R-M near middle of discal cell.
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David Gibbs wrote:
certainly Pipunculus, very likely Pipunculus campestris Latreille, 1802


Perhaps, but Pipunculus is still unrevised and nobody has apparently seen the types of P. campestris; all descriptions of this species are based on wishful thinking, not type material. The types have apparently been found in Paris and I know that Dr. Kehlmaier is now working with this rather problematic genus.
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quite so, i revise my comment to "very likley the species we call Pipunculus campestris in Britain"
 
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thank you all, I'll call it Pipunculus sp. (Pipunculidae)

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