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| Pentti Ketola |
Posted on 28-09-2010 11:32
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Hi, can anyone suggest a species this 10mm fly? I take the photo on 28 September 2010 Kokkola, Finland. Regards Pentti. Pentti Ketola attached the following image:  [101.08Kb] Edited by Pentti Ketola on 02-01-2014 19:10 |
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| Pentti Ketola |
Posted on 28-09-2010 11:34
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| Pentti Ketola |
Posted on 28-09-2010 11:35
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| Stephen R |
Posted on 28-09-2010 11:38
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I think it is Sylvicola punctatus of Anisopodidae. |
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| Pentti Ketola |
Posted on 29-09-2010 04:32
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Many thanks Stephen! Pentti. |
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| Pentti Ketola |
Posted on 29-09-2010 10:55
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| ahaarto |
Posted on 30-09-2010 03:33
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I am now working with Finnish Anisopodidae and I do not agree with Stephen. Wing of S. punctatus has dark band from pterostigma to middle of the wing. This specimen is either S. stackelbergi or S. fuscatoides. Antti |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 30-09-2010 09:06
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Or fuscatus. You need a few of the genitalia...
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 30-09-2010 09:16
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Member Location: Zoelmond, the Netherlands Posts: 1984 Joined: 01.11.06 |
They have more? 
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| Pentti Ketola |
Posted on 30-09-2010 09:41
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| ahaarto |
Posted on 30-09-2010 10:40
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Yes, S. fuscatus is possible but not probable. All specimens I have seen from Finland earlier determined as fuscatus were stackelbergi or fuscatoides. Antti |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 30-09-2010 10:55
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True, but it cannot be ruled out. Michelsen (1999) states: Distribution. − Europe, ranging from France and Italy to southern Scandinavia, eastward to Russian Transcaucasus. A record from Finland (Hackman 1980) almost certainly refer to either S. stackelbergi Krivosheina & Menzel or S. fuscatoides sp. n. Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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but don't see the image in the post.
