Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Tipula sp. yellow (EDIT: Limoniidae sp.)
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| Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 18-07-2010 22:07
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 Member Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 2082 Joined: 17.10.05 |
hi flyforum, Any idea about this nice yellow Tipula sp. ? place: Amsterdam forest date: 18-07-2010 greeting Robert Robert Heemskerk attached the following image:  [74.92Kb] Edited by Robert Heemskerk on 28-07-2010 19:46 Greeting, Robert Heemskerk ---- WWW: http://robertheem...ndedag.htm --- |
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| Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 18-07-2010 22:07
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Member Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 2082 Joined: 17.10.05 |
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Robert Heemskerk attached the following image:  [89.61Kb] Edited by Robert Heemskerk on 18-07-2010 22:07 Greeting, Robert Heemskerk ---- WWW: http://robertheem...ndedag.htm --- |
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| Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 22-07-2010 12:28
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Member Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 2082 Joined: 17.10.05 |
I give this a second try 
Greeting, Robert Heemskerk ---- WWW: http://robertheem...ndedag.htm --- |
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| AndreVrijens |
Posted on 28-07-2010 18:39
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 Member Location: Eifel, Germany Posts: 98 Joined: 18.03.08 |
Robert, I'd say Limoniidae (short palpes) Best regards, Andre |
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| Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 28-07-2010 19:45
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Member Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 2082 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Thank you Andre, I'll change the subject in Limoniidae sp. (edit) greeting Robert Greeting, Robert Heemskerk ---- WWW: http://robertheem...ndedag.htm --- |
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| Chen Young |
Posted on 28-08-2010 22:11
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 Member Location: Pittsburgh, PENNSYLVANIA USA Posts: 169 Joined: 25.08.05 |
As a matter of fact, this one is in family Tipulidae. The last segment of the palp is longer the the first 4 segment put together. Here is a simple key to tell the two families apart.
Edited by Chen Young on 28-08-2010 22:12 |
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| AndreVrijens |
Posted on 29-08-2010 18:47
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Member Location: Eifel, Germany Posts: 98 Joined: 18.03.08 |
Chen, If this one is in Tipulidae family, with the black stripes on the thorax, It can only be Nephrotoma. The only Nephrotoma in the Netherlands without black markings on the pleurae is N.scurra. I am quite convinced this is not N.scurra. Any other suggestions? Edited by AndreVrijens on 29-08-2010 18:47 Best regards, Andre |
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| Chen Young |
Posted on 30-08-2010 00:37
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Member Location: Pittsburgh, PENNSYLVANIA USA Posts: 169 Joined: 25.08.05 |
Hi Andre, thanks for bringing my attention to this fly. I took a close look of the wing and the Rs is too long to be Nephrotoma . While looking the wing I noticed that the wing venation of this fly actually more looks like the fly in the family Cylindrotomidae. I am sorry that I am not familiar with the crane fly fauna of Europe, if you know the species of Cylindrotomidae you may want to take a look of the species list and see if this fly fits any of them.
Edited by Chen Young on 30-08-2010 00:38 |
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| AndreVrijens |
Posted on 30-08-2010 20:36
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Member Location: Eifel, Germany Posts: 98 Joined: 18.03.08 |
If I follow Stubbs key for Cylindrotomidae, it brings me to Cylindrotoma distinctissima. This is the only Cylindrotomidae in the Netherlands with Discal cell with 4 veins distally. (=4 veins leaving appical part of Discal cell) Best regards, Andre |
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| Chen Young |
Posted on 31-08-2010 05:31
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Member Location: Pittsburgh, PENNSYLVANIA USA Posts: 169 Joined: 25.08.05 |
I did a quick check online and ran into this link and I think your suggestion of Cylindrotoma distinctissima is quite likely true for this fly. |
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