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Juergen Peters
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Posted on 13-08-2006 22:08
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Hello!

I found this beautiful Thereva today near the forest here in Ostwestfalen/Germany. Can the species be determined from the photos? Thanks in advance!


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Hi Juergen
I wonder whether this might be a female Thereva handlirschi. (Not a species I'm familiar with, but the description seems to fit.) This is only a suggestion - it would be best to wait until someone familiar with the central European species can confirm this before adding it, even as a temporary name.
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Hi Juergen and Tony,

The species looks very yellow indeed, which makes Tony's guess a good one. However, I can see only 1 pair of dorsocentral bristles on the thorax. If that is correct, the picture cannot represent handlirschi, since this species has 2 pairs of DC before scutellum.
Maybe Juergen can check on an original at higher resolution ?


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Hello, Tony and Theo!

Thanks for your replies!

Zeegers wrote:
since this species has 2 pairs of DC before scutellum.
Maybe Juergen can check on an original at higher resolution ?


Below two uncompressed extracts from the photos. But I am not sure, whether they show that detail better...

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I can still see only one pair of DC.
But it is difficult to see, so I don't have a final opinion in this matter.
Sometimes we just cannot ID from fotos !

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Hello, Theo!

Zeegers wrote:
I can still see only one pair of DC.
But it is difficult to see, so I don't have a final opinion in this matter.
Sometimes we just cannot ID from fotos !


Thanks nevertheless!
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