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 Male genitalia???
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| BojanaS |
Posted on 28-08-2009 15:54
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Member Location: Posts: 7 Joined: 26.08.09 |
Hello u all  Please, can somebody help me with my final exam "Distribution of genus Meliscaeva in Serbia"...I'm stuck with description of male genitalia (parts, morphology, anatomy...)... can't find information anywhere. Thanks in advance, Bojana |
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| John Bratton |
Posted on 30-08-2009 17:47
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Member Location: Menai Bridge, North Wales, UK Posts: 670 Joined: 17.10.06 |
Stubbs & Falk (1983, British hoverflies), don't say much: "There is a median process, the aedeagus, flanked by paired parts referred to as lobes (or slender processes called parameres)." There might be more in the latest edition (2002?) but I don't have it to hand. John Bratton |
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| BojanaS |
Posted on 31-08-2009 14:23
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Member Location: Posts: 7 Joined: 26.08.09 |
Thanks John... I hope someone can tell me a little bit more on that subject but thanks anyway... Bojana |
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| Andre |
Posted on 31-08-2009 14:34
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 Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
I don't recall any source that shows drawings of its genitalia. Perhaps you would be the first to do so? I will try to look for more info... |
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| BojanaS |
Posted on 31-08-2009 14:42
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I'm not surprised at all I will take a photo of male genitalia, but I need some guidance in writing text which will follow that picture... |
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| Andre |
Posted on 31-08-2009 14:56
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Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
In your country, Ante Vujic is the leading Syrphidae specialist. Maybe he has time and energy to help you? You can send me a pm in case you don't already have his emailaddress and such. |
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| BojanaS |
Posted on 31-08-2009 16:49
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Member Location: Posts: 7 Joined: 26.08.09 |
Ante Vujic is professor at my Department but he is not my mentor, S. Radenkovic is. I will ask her for some help, but I was hoping to find information by myself  I can't believe that there is no pic. or text about male genitalia on the internet...so sad! We have to do something to change that... |
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| Andre |
Posted on 31-08-2009 19:07
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Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
Please... the internet is not a holy medium...  P.S.: it is not a weakness to ask your mentor for directions and help! He or she is ONE of all the sources you can use. Just ask the right questions, that really show what you want to know and why. Edited by Andre on 31-08-2009 19:13 |
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| BojanaS |
Posted on 31-08-2009 21:26
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Member Location: Posts: 7 Joined: 26.08.09 |
That is not a reason why I didn't ask my mentor, but that is another topic, so... Thanks for helping me... |
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| John Bratton |
Posted on 03-09-2009 17:56
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Member Location: Menai Bridge, North Wales, UK Posts: 670 Joined: 17.10.06 |
The second edition of British Hoverflies, Stubbs, Falk et al. 2002, does give more detail, including a page of diagrams (Plate A) explaining the parts of a Cheilosia genital capsule. Do you have access to the book? I don't have a scanner. John Bratton |
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| Andre |
Posted on 03-09-2009 20:03
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Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
I have. |
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| Menno Reemer |
Posted on 03-09-2009 20:23
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Member Location: Posts: 344 Joined: 10.06.04 |
There is a figure of the male genitalia of Meliscaeva cinctella in the following work: Vockeroth, J.R. 1969. A revision of the genera of the Syrphini (Diptera: Syrphidae). - Memoirs of the Entomological Society of Canada 62: 1-176. Edited by Menno Reemer on 03-09-2009 20:23 |
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| BojanaS |
Posted on 03-09-2009 20:26
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Member Location: Posts: 7 Joined: 26.08.09 |
I don't have that book, could you post that part somehow PLEASE! |
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| Menno Reemer |
Posted on 03-09-2009 20:34
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Member Location: Posts: 344 Joined: 10.06.04 |
Ask Snezana, she'll know where to find it. |
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| BojanaS |
Posted on 05-09-2009 13:30
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Member Location: Posts: 7 Joined: 26.08.09 |
Thanks everyone for information! It was helpful. |
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| Andre |
Posted on 11-09-2009 15:45
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Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
Maybe you already saw it, but I can confirm now (since I bought it): Acta Entomologica Fennica 25 shows the genitalia of Meliscaeva auricollis, M. cinctellus, Episyrphus balteatus and many more Syrphini  |
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