Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Tachinidae 29.06.2006
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 01-07-2006 09:22
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 Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3346 Joined: 17.10.05 |
3 specimens of different size were collected on various herbaceous plants. I think I saw a couple of similar flies in the threads, but maybe an expert opinion is more welcome than my guesses. And I'm not so sure it's a single species (at least the eyes of the small one seem to be hairy). First, the heads of all of the three (size ascending from left to right, small, 6.5-7mm, medium, 8mm, large, 9mm). Dmitry Gavryushin attached the following image:  [95.89Kb] Edited by Dmitry Gavryushin on 01-07-2006 09:28 |
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 01-07-2006 09:23
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3346 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Now the small fly.
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 01-07-2006 09:24
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3346 Joined: 17.10.05 |
The second fly.
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 01-07-2006 09:26
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3346 Joined: 17.10.05 |
And the last fly.
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 01-07-2006 09:31
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 Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Hmm, it is early and I haven't had my cup of tea yet ... but I'd say all the heads are of different species or at least 2 species and possibly 2 sexes. The most significant feature is that the left head has hairy eyes, while the middle and right head have bare eyes. Left also has long ocellar bristles. I will have a cup of tea and try keying your big photo 
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 01-07-2006 09:36
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3346 Joined: 17.10.05 |
OK Chris, This time I did my best to make them show their katepisterna  . |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 01-07-2006 09:39
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Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
That's great - thanks Can I also ask: 1. can you double-check #1 - does it have hairy eyes? 2. can you provide dorsal perspective photos? I would like to see the wing venation and scutellum a bit better |
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 01-07-2006 21:09
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3346 Joined: 17.10.05 |
OK I'll check later. P.S. Woe to England!... |
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 02-07-2006 14:33
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3346 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Chris, I'm attaching some dorsal views. First the small one, eyes definitely (partially) hairy.
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 02-07-2006 14:34
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3346 Joined: 17.10.05 |
I'm not sure which one is 8mm and which one is 9mm (or maybe it's the same one...)
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 02-07-2006 14:35
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3346 Joined: 17.10.05 |
And the last one.
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 02-07-2006 16:09
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Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Lovely photos - most tachinids need good lateral and dorsal photos like this, unless they posess a unique and really visible feature. Fly A is a difficult one - it doesn't go through the UK key and it has a combination of features that I haven't seen in any UK species - hairs on R4+5 to r-m, very divergent apocal scutellar bristles and hairy eyes. The closest I can get is Lecanipa, which Nikita found a few weeks ago. Fly B & C look like Lydella (stabulans?) (male & female, in that order) Hope that helps a bit ... lets wait for Theo to confirm Fly A though |
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 02-07-2006 20:14
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3346 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Many thanks Chris! |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 06-08-2006 12:12
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19294 Joined: 21.07.04 |
I agree with the first one: Lecanipa bicincta. Great call by Chris, given the fact that this species does not occur in the UK. The second and third one have reddish tip to scutellum, so they cannot be Lydella (scutellum completely black). If the eyes are hairy, which seems to be the case, I would say: Phryxe. Theo |
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 07-08-2006 01:29
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3346 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Thanks a lot Theo. |
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