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 Black Syrphid..<Melanogaster hirtella (M) ID'd by Caliprobola
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 31-05-2009 14:45
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 Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5268 Joined: 17.07.08 |
Spotted this little black guy in the garden today. Could it be a Cheilosia? There is one record of a Cheilosia albitarsis being collected in Shetland in June 1890... Could this be the first recorded in 119 years? EDIT; Changed title from Cheilosia to Melanogaster Roger Thomason attached the following image:  [42.37Kb] Edited by Roger Thomason on 12-06-2009 23:18 |
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 31-05-2009 14:46
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Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5268 Joined: 17.07.08 |
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 31-05-2009 14:47
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Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5268 Joined: 17.07.08 |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 31-05-2009 19:29
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Looks like Cheilosia, 'but it ain't albitarsis'. 
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 31-05-2009 19:33
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Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5268 Joined: 17.07.08 |
Paul Beuk wrote: Looks like Cheilosia, 'but it ain't albitarsis'. Well if it ain't albitarsis then it is a new species for Shetland.  . Even better. |
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| Lukasz Mielczarek |
Posted on 31-05-2009 21:12
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 Member Location: Poland, Krakow Posts: 498 Joined: 27.09.06 |
Not Cheilosia. I think more like Melanogaster... |
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 01-06-2009 00:20
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Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5268 Joined: 17.07.08 |
 ..Thanks Lukasz,I have one species : Melanogaster hirtella on my Checklist..which is a common resident according to my list. I haven't seen it before...oh well. Regards Roger Anyone confirm this as Melanogaster hirtella? |
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| caliprobola |
Posted on 01-06-2009 09:34
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Member Location: Belgium Posts: 203 Joined: 24.05.07 |
definetely Melanogaster and most probably hirtella
Edited by caliprobola on 01-06-2009 09:34 |
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| Andre |
Posted on 01-06-2009 09:49
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 Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
but also possible: Melanogaster aerosa. But for a waterproof ID, we'd need the specimen. |
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 01-06-2009 20:55
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Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5268 Joined: 17.07.08 |
Moral dilemma here guys...odd if someone gets on the wrong side of me I have absolutely no qualms in battering the s**t out of them, and have done so on many occasions, but I can't kill a fly....how can that be? If I was to turn into a murderer of flies (sorry..dipterist), what is the quickest way? Without all the gubbins of you REAL dipterists, IE chemicals and so on? Freezer? God, how to catch them without a net...or do I go for M hirtella ARGH......... . Anyway..I'm busy re-slating my roof at present, so will think about it...Regards Roger
Edited by Roger Thomason on 01-06-2009 20:56 |
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