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 Tabanidae, August 2008, Hungary
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| Xespok |
Posted on 28-09-2008 21:07
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 Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
A very late Haematopota male coming to light. Can the species be determined? I could not collect this one.
Xespok attached the following image:  [167.22Kb] Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 28-09-2008 21:08
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Another view.
Xespok attached the following image:  [161.57Kb] Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 30-09-2008 19:02
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18619 Joined: 21.07.04 |
What a pity ! It is clearly very dark, antennae seem all black. So it must be either crassicornis, which is a spring species, or the male of ocelligera. Theo |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 01-10-2008 06:36
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
I checked on my original image, and the antenna is not entirely black. The third segment is brownish, especially on basal half. The scutellum does not seem to have a distinct marking, so it is unlikely to be scutellata. Femora are clearly dark greyish (so it can not be bigoti), so I am afraid, this will be just H. pluvialis. Does it make sense?
Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 03-10-2008 18:03
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18619 Joined: 21.07.04 |
No. If this colouration is any good,it can't be pluvialis. Most ocelligera actually have clearly a brownish base to the third antennal segment (at least in female sex), contra all existing keys. Is it possible to get a blowup of the antenna from the second pic ? Or is the pic not good enough ? Theo |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 03-10-2008 18:12
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
This is the original size of the image. Actually my oldish literature on Tabanidae states that male ocelligera is undescribed. Xespok attached the following image:  [97.08Kb] Edited by Xespok on 03-10-2008 18:15 Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 04-10-2008 08:57
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18619 Joined: 21.07.04 |
The first antennal segment is surprisingly elongated, so it is not crassicornis or bigoti. I don't think it is pluvialis. It is not scutellata. Seems too dark for subcylindrica. Since it was not collected, I think it ends here. Theo |
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but don't see the image in the post.
